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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 21 Dec 2014 - 3:53

MSA TORA Maximum Group VAG Trophy - Car List and Build Rules 16573367095_484871fe54_o

Failure to adhere to the car list and build rules as specified below will result in penalty or disqualification.


Class A Specs: 3000Lb minimum, 300HP maximum, A550 PI.

Mandatory: Race Brakes, Race tires, Forza Front Aero, Race Rollcage*

Optional:: Forza Rear Aero, AWD to RWD conversion.

Banned: Other Drivetrain conversions, Aspiration Conversions, Engine Swaps

Class A Car List:
AWD:
2004 Audi TT Coupé 3.2 quattro
2007 Audi TT Coupé S-Line
2003 Volkswagen Golf R32
2003 Volkswagen Bora VR6
2010 Volkswagen Golf R

FWD:
2003 SEAT Leon Cupra R
2007 SEAT Leon CUPRA
2010 SEAT Leon CUPRA R
1998 Volkswagen GTI VR6 Mk3*
2006 Volkswagen Golf GTi
2009 Volkswagen Scirocco GT
2010 Volkswagen Golf GTI Mk6
2011 Volkswagen Scirocco R



Class B Specs: 150-200HP, 2200-2600 LB and C410 PI.

Mandatory: Race Brakes, Stock Transmission, Sport Tires, Race Rollcage*, Forza Front Aero

Banned: Drivetrain conversions, Aspiration Conversions, Engine Swaps, Race Springs/Dampers, Race Anti-Roll Bars, Forza Rear Aero

Class B Car List:

2011 Volkswagen Fox
1984 Volkswagen Rabbit GTI
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
1998 Volkswagen GTI VR6 Mk3*
2004 Volkswagen Beetle
1996 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
2011 Volkswagen Polo GTI
2009 SEAT Ibiza CUPRA

*Sport Rollcage on 1998 Volkswagen GTI VR6 Mk3


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Post by DDM Driv3 Mon 22 Dec 2014 - 2:41

On the '11 Scirocco R (Don't know if other VW's have this) there is a VW rear wing that's exactly the same as the Forza wing, but it looks different. Is it a possibility to use this instead for aesthetics?
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Mon 22 Dec 2014 - 2:52

Mr Driv3 wrote:On the '11 Scirocco R (Don't know if other VW's have this) there is a VW rear wing that's exactly the same as the Forza wing, but it looks different. Is it a possibility to use this instead for aesthetics?

Yes
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Post by SECR Marko1100 Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 13:55

If a part isn't featured in the mandatory or optional list does that mean it can be fitted ?
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 14:51

MrMarko1100 wrote:If a part isn't featured in the mandatory or optional list does that mean it can be fitted ?

As in which part?
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Post by Freheliaz Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 17:03

Shame there are only 2 Audis listed.
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Post by DDM Driv3 Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 17:16

Flyin Mikey J wrote:
MrMarko1100 wrote:If a part isn't featured in the mandatory or optional list does that mean it can be fitted ?

As in which part?

I know what he means. Eg. On the A builds, no engine parts are listed in the Mandatory or Optional lists. Can we fit something like air filters or camshafts to the cars even though they aren't on either of the lists? I'm assuming yes because if not then you wouldn't be able to get any of the cars up to A550
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Post by SECR Marko1100 Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 18:15

Mr Driv3 wrote:
Flyin Mikey J wrote:
MrMarko1100 wrote:If a part isn't featured in the mandatory or optional list does that mean it can be fitted ?

As in which part?

I know what he means. Eg. On the A builds, no engine parts are listed in the Mandatory or Optional lists. Can we fit something like air filters or camshafts to the cars even though they aren't on either of the lists? I'm assuming yes because if not then you wouldn't be able to get any of the cars up to A550

I mean things like upgraded clutch , driveline and diff. Have a faif idea engine parts are all allowed because as Mr Driv3 said you would get the correct hp etc
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Post by Standaman94 Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 18:53

Yes.... Mandatory means you MUST have it on the car no matter what. Optional is simply to say that you can have it on the car if you want, as those would be parts people might ask if they are unsure anyway. Everything else is entirely up to you.
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Post by SECR Marko1100 Tue 23 Dec 2014 - 18:55

Standaman94 wrote:Yes.... Mandatory means you MUST have it on the car no matter what. Optional is simply to say that you can have it on the car if you want, as those would be parts people might ask if they are unsure anyway. Everything else is entirely up to you.

Thanks for the confirmation stan
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Post by SECR Marko1100 Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 15:11

Struggling to get the corrado to the 3000lbs any tips .
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Post by Standaman94 Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 15:20

What is it at?

If it doesn't fit at all we'll remove it from the list, an error on our part.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 15:23

The Corrado is at 2800lbs. Its great in B Class, but cannot make minimum weight by quite a margin.
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Post by SECR Marko1100 Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 15:30

My bad didn't notice it was in both lists. I'll get the spanners back out
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Post by SECR Marko1100 Tue 30 Dec 2014 - 15:34

Flyin Mikey J wrote:
Mr Driv3 wrote:On the '11 Scirocco R (Don't know if other VW's have this) there is a VW rear wing that's exactly the same as the Forza wing, but it looks different. Is it a possibility to use this instead for aesthetics?

Yes

Can the same be done for the front ?
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Post by galeforce97 Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 19:53

Can you change the build for the car mid season. For example add some more power for faster tracks but as long as its within the specs
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Post by Standaman94 Tue 6 Jan 2015 - 21:40

You can change your car as much as you want within the season, so long as it still remains in the specifications
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Post by Ax4x Cowboy Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 2:54

The 2010 VW Golf R Should be in the AWD list as it comes stock with AWD. Smile
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Wed 7 Jan 2015 - 3:43

Two changes have been made...

2010 VW Golf R has been moved from FWD to AWD.

1996 VW Corrado has been removed from the A Class list due to not meeting specs.
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Post by RedRacer19 Wed 14 Jan 2015 - 20:29

Are we allowed to fit aftermarket rims?
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Post by Standaman94 Wed 14 Jan 2015 - 21:29

Yes Smile
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Post by RedRacer19 Thu 15 Jan 2015 - 19:42

Thought so, just wondering. Thanks!
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Post by skyshadow5 Thu 15 Jan 2015 - 19:59

Are there any more changes to the builds other than:

2010 VW Golf R has been moved from FWD to AWD.
1996 VW Corrado has been removed from the A Class list due to not meeting specs.

~sky~
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Post by MajorHolehurt Sun 18 Jan 2015 - 19:14

When does this puppy kick off then?
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 18 Jan 2015 - 19:18

I hope "soon".
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