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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sat 2 Jan 2016 - 22:00

TORA US American Iron Carlist and Build Rules Fm6_ai10

1964-1999 American RWD four seaters.

Weight: 2900-3200 Lbs

Power: 400-450 HP

650PI

Naturally Aspirated V8s

Engine Swaps OK

Aero: Forza Aero Optional

Race Brakes, Race Tires and Full Rollcage MANDATORY

Car List:

AMC:

1971 Javelin AMX
1969 Rebel

Buick:
1970 GSX

Chevrolet:
1990 Camaro IROC Z
1988 Monte Carlo SS
1970 Camaro Z28
1969 Nova SS
1967 Chevelle SS 396
1964 Impala SS

Dodge:
1970 Challenger
1969 Charger Daytona Hemi
1969 Charger

Ford:
1995 Mustang SVT Cobra R
1993 Mustang SVT Cobra R
1971 Mustang Mach 1
1969 Mustang Boss 302

Mercury:
1970 Cougar Eliminator

Plymouth:
1971 Cuda
1973 Satellite GTX

Pontiac:

1987 Trans Am GTA
1977 Trans Am
1969 GTO Judge
1969 Trans Am


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 8 Jan 2016 - 18:51

Due to an unforeseen balance issue, the 1986 Buick Regal GNX has met the official ban hammer.

Sorry for any inconvenience.
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Post by pontiacfan05 Mon 1 Feb 2016 - 3:26

might want to rethink the horse power for these cars. in order for the 73 T/A to have a 650 pi i have to have almost 500 HORSE.

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Mon 1 Feb 2016 - 4:58

I will double check. I know the 77 and 69 both fit perfect.
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Post by LZR Harmonic Tue 2 Feb 2016 - 15:58

'73 Trans Am gets up to 644 PI. 449 HP, 2,902 lbs.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Tue 2 Feb 2016 - 16:48

LMR Harmonic wrote:'73 Trans Am gets up to 644 PI. 449 HP, 2,902 lbs.

Ewww... that was one that was supposed to be removed from the list. Embarassed
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Post by LZR Harmonic Tue 2 Feb 2016 - 18:31

Flyin Mikey J wrote:
LMR Harmonic wrote:'73 Trans Am gets up to 644 PI. 449 HP, 2,902 lbs.

Ewww... that was one that was supposed to be removed from the list. Embarassed
Do all the cars have to make exactly 650 PI to be legal?
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Tue 2 Feb 2016 - 18:49

LMR Harmonic wrote:
Do all the cars have to make exactly 650 PI to be legal?

Yes.
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Post by pontiacfan05 Tue 2 Feb 2016 - 23:58

69 Trans am 650 pi

i get 526 hp
522 lb-ft
2656

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Post by ROSCOEpCOTRAIN Wed 3 Feb 2016 - 0:40

I got the 73' ta at 650pi 450hp,580 lftlb, 2920lbs
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Wed 3 Feb 2016 - 0:47

pontiacfan05 wrote:69 Trans am  650 pi

i get 526 hp
522 lb-ft
2656

I have a couple legal builds at 449 HP and right about minimum weight.
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Post by ROSCOEpCOTRAIN Wed 3 Feb 2016 - 1:01

ok scratch that 450 hp 2902lb 650 pi

<3 u bulin Smile
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Post by deedok Fri 19 Feb 2016 - 3:52

When can I change from the 93 Mustang it is awful

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 19 Feb 2016 - 5:03

This is the week for any car changes among those who have actually competed a round. There is a 50 Driver Point penalty for this change, however after next race, that penalty will be all Driver Points accumulated.
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Post by deedok Fri 19 Feb 2016 - 15:18

Thanks Mikey, I will change my car. When is the deadline?

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 19 Feb 2016 - 15:19

Thursday.
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Post by pontiacfan05 Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 16:48

Maybe I am missing something here.
In order for me to get the 77 T/A ton 425 I am 6 points over the pi roughly about 20 LBS over the weight limit with 7.0 L engine swap.

With 5.7 swap at best I can come in 394 hp and everything else is fine.

My question is how can this be a legal car and be on the level with everyone else?

Not trying to ruin anyone else racing here but am I am missing something or is this car actually illegal given the current build guidlines?
Maybe I out of line with this but should not all the car be a minimum 400 horse?

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 16:51

I've gotten the car legal with three different builds, inc both the 5.7 and 7.0 swaps. I've shared two of these builds as well.
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Post by pontiacfan05 Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 16:54

Flyin Mikey J wrote:I've gotten the car legal with three different builds, inc both the 5.7 and 7.0 swaps. I've shared two of these builds as well.

Ok was just checking.

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 16:56

I'll go adjust them both to grippy Sonoma tunes, and reshare for you bud.

And I saw last night that ROSCOE has shared his Sonoma tune on this car... I'd suggest trying it as he's laid down some really quick laps with it.
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Post by pontiacfan05 Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 17:00

Flyin Mikey J wrote:I'll go adjust them both to grippy Sonoma tunes, and reshare for you bud.

And I saw last night that ROSCOE has shared his Sonoma tune on this car... I'd suggest trying it as he's laid down some really quick laps with it.

I got it with in the build specs. now. Now that is done are we suppose to have all the assists off? I do not recall anyone ever mentioning it.

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 17:11

ABS and TCS are allowed. I've found with these cars, it slows me down, but others cannot drive them w/o, so I've allowed them in.
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Post by pontiacfan05 Thu 25 Feb 2016 - 17:26

Flyin Mikey J wrote:ABS and TCS are allowed. I've found with these cars, it slows me down, but others cannot drive them w/o, so I've allowed them in.



ok thanks.

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