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Re: TORA TEC Silverstone 12H: General Discussion
I'm sure we can work something out with streaming of Lobby A and then Lobby B. To show all cars.
But please merge all the TCC cars. Either in Lobby A and take some GT cars to B,or move up some GT cars from B to A and get all the TCC there.
But don't make Lobby A all the GT cars, and Lobby B all the TCC cars only.
Because it's an endurance race so it just matters how much distance you get in. But for the enjoyment of driving of the TCC cars merge them into 1 lobby.
But please merge all the TCC cars. Either in Lobby A and take some GT cars to B,or move up some GT cars from B to A and get all the TCC there.
But don't make Lobby A all the GT cars, and Lobby B all the TCC cars only.
Because it's an endurance race so it just matters how much distance you get in. But for the enjoyment of driving of the TCC cars merge them into 1 lobby.
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Freheliaz wrote:I'm sure we can work something out with streaming of Lobby A and then Lobby B. To show all cars.
But please merge all the TCC cars. Either in Lobby A and take some GT cars to B,or move up some GT cars from B to A and get all the TCC there.
But don't make Lobby A all the GT cars, and Lobby B all the TCC cars only.
Because it's an endurance race so it just matters how much distance you get in. But for the enjoyment of driving of the TCC cars merge them into 1 lobby.
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Freheliaz wrote:I'm sure we can work something out with streaming of Lobby A and then Lobby B. To show all cars.
But please merge all the TCC cars. Either in Lobby A and take some GT cars to B,or move up some GT cars from B to A and get all the TCC there.
But don't make Lobby A all the GT cars, and Lobby B all the TCC cars only.
Because it's an endurance race so it just matters how much distance you get in. But for the enjoyment of driving of the TCC cars merge them into 1 lobby.
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Doesn't make sense to split them
F4H Hakkinen- TORA Race Number : 379
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So who is B lobby gonna have to deal with?
Ideally, we'd love lobbies that could hold 40 but with Forza's server reliability and strength, 16 is borderline too much...
so we have to deal with it and let everyone have similar conditions
Ideally, we'd love lobbies that could hold 40 but with Forza's server reliability and strength, 16 is borderline too much...
so we have to deal with it and let everyone have similar conditions
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Full lobbies have been done before on this without issues. I just feel for the four guys in lobby B, I'm sure their experience will be better with all TCC together.
Just my two cents. It doesn't make sense to split such a small field of a class. Nobody benefits.
Just my two cents. It doesn't make sense to split such a small field of a class. Nobody benefits.
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Keep the lobbies as they are. We all qualified to determine our positions. The issue with merging TCC into 1 lobby is pace. There's a 5 second gap between pole and last place in TCC, meaning at some point we'll be lapping them. Past experience with people failing to understand the blue flag rule has cause major issues for people and potentially cost people the race. Historically when backmarkers are battling for position and the leaders are coming through, it's the leaders that lose out.
Also taking TCC out of B lobby pretty much ruins the event for that lobby making it just a GT race. It was pretty clear that we'd end up in two lobbies, maybe some teams could have entered 2, 2 man teams instead of 1 team with 4 or 5 drivers, to help fill out the lobbies.
TBH A lobby is a decent lobby, The GT are all around the same pace and the TCC are pretty much too. Merging slower people into A lobby is most likely gonna cause issues.
Also taking TCC out of B lobby pretty much ruins the event for that lobby making it just a GT race. It was pretty clear that we'd end up in two lobbies, maybe some teams could have entered 2, 2 man teams instead of 1 team with 4 or 5 drivers, to help fill out the lobbies.
TBH A lobby is a decent lobby, The GT are all around the same pace and the TCC are pretty much too. Merging slower people into A lobby is most likely gonna cause issues.
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I tend to agree if you merge tcc then you make an exception for 1 youll open the floodgates for other teams to request changes. Like our team would prefer to be in A because were less than half a second behind the car ahead but 1.5 seconds ahead of the car behind. Stick with how it is people knew what they signed up for. Plus if you take TCC out of 1 lobby they could potentially be quicker due to lack of traffic
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Lobbies WILL stay as they are.
Staff spoke at length last night about the pros and cons of putting the TCC cars in one lobby, we feel as a endurance race with muiti class racing we cannot have one lobby different to the other as it can create unfairness and thats not what we wish for.
It is disappointing that we only have small TCC grids in the lobbies but its something that has happened and we must deal with it best we can.
Staff spoke at length last night about the pros and cons of putting the TCC cars in one lobby, we feel as a endurance race with muiti class racing we cannot have one lobby different to the other as it can create unfairness and thats not what we wish for.
It is disappointing that we only have small TCC grids in the lobbies but its something that has happened and we must deal with it best we can.
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Yet this was a reoccurring theme in BGT, GT3s in one lobby & GT4s on their own... if you're gonna do it for one series, there needs to be a recognised practice for endurance racing...
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Re: TORA TEC Silverstone 12H: General Discussion
Well, eliminating hot laps for one class means other cars will hot lap too.
I've been in smaller lobbies that has had better racing a number of times. Sometimes, more does not mean better. Depends on what it is, and the delta in the field, among other things.
I've been in smaller lobbies that has had better racing a number of times. Sometimes, more does not mean better. Depends on what it is, and the delta in the field, among other things.
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Just an idea.
What about move the first GT in B lobby upto A and last place TCC in A lobby down to B lobby? Both cars on paper look as though they are more on par performance wise in the other lobbies.
What about move the first GT in B lobby upto A and last place TCC in A lobby down to B lobby? Both cars on paper look as though they are more on par performance wise in the other lobbies.
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I believe they are staying as they are. Like Franchitti said, we spoke at length concerning the merge, even had a poll and the outcome was a 50/50 split. It works how it is and no traffic in one lobby could affect the outcome severely.
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ok forget my stupidity but where did this discussion come from?
Turn 1 will be bad enough with 5 tcc cars let alone 20...
Turn 1 will be bad enough with 5 tcc cars let alone 20...
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Sub Zero Nova 2 wrote:
Turn 1 will be bad enough with 5 tcc cars let alone 20...
Most of us have the foresight to get through it cleanly...
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HCR Mystic wrote:Sub Zero Nova 2 wrote:
Turn 1 will be bad enough with 5 tcc cars let alone 20...
Most of us have the foresight to get through it cleanly...
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try telling that to the car behind me.....HCR Mystic wrote:Sub Zero Nova 2 wrote:
Turn 1 will be bad enough with 5 tcc cars let alone 20...
Most of us have the foresight to get through it cleanly...
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Sub Zero Nova 2 wrote:try telling that to the car behind me.....HCR Mystic wrote:Sub Zero Nova 2 wrote:
Turn 1 will be bad enough with 5 tcc cars let alone 20...
Most of us have the foresight to get through it cleanly...
You're last in the lobby, you'll be fine
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The overtaking of the GT cars is awful, the worst I've seen in a very long time. XRS Carlos, Focusatze and Windcharger are a law onto themselves. Stop diving bombing! You guys hit me and Mystic on multiple occasions and made us go off.
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F4H Hakkinen wrote:The overtaking of the GT cars is awful, the worst I've seen in a very long time. XRS Carlos, Focusatze and Windcharger are a law onto themselves. Stop diving bombing! You guys hit me and Mystic on multiple occasions and made us go off.
I have tried to overtake TCC cars as clean as possible but it was not easy. Sorry if I have hitted you (I don't remember where), The only time i hitted a TCC car was on Luffield turn, and that TCC closed to the right when i was cornering there, making my turn very difficult. I know everybody is racing for his own targets but when you have a GT just behind you, maybe it will be easier if TCC let GT pass without fighting.
I don't think i have been dive bombing nobody. I hitted one car and it never gets off the track, only a little bumping.
Good racing for everyone. It was a very good experience.
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XRS CARLOS wrote:F4H Hakkinen wrote:The overtaking of the GT cars is awful, the worst I've seen in a very long time. XRS Carlos, Focusatze and Windcharger are a law onto themselves. Stop diving bombing! You guys hit me and Mystic on multiple occasions and made us go off.
I have tried to overtake TCC cars as clean as possible but it was not easy. Sorry if I have hitted you (I don't remember where), The only time i hitted a TCC car was on Luffield turn, and that TCC closed to the right when i was cornering there, making my turn very difficult. I know everybody is racing for his own targets but when you have a GT just behind you, maybe it will be easier if TCC let GT pass without fighting.
I don't think i have been dive bombing nobody. I hitted one car and it never gets off the track, only a little bumping.
Good racing for everyone. It was a very good experience.
It was me you hit in Luffield, not a big deal though but I was already half way round the corner on the racing line.
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Ok sorry then Mystic. I was thinking you were giving me the right side of the turn. That's why i hitted you. I hope i didn't broke anything of your car. It was my mistake.
Regards.
Regards.
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Re: TORA TEC Silverstone 12H: General Discussion
Hey Carlos - you didn't hit me but you forced me off twice entering the left kink on the first straight cause you cut the inside corner. Just wait till TCC cars clear corners as we have the right of way and are not obligated to move off our racing line.
Good luck for the rest of the race
Good luck for the rest of the race
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Well Hakkinen I don't remeber that. But if I have forced you I apologize. It was a very hard race for me. Started at P3 and was P12 on first lap. I looked for hotlaping alone because I was faster than P12, so my lap timing was crucial to reach that final P6.
Sorry if i looked to aggressive by overtaking TCC cars, but everytime i have to overtake one, I have lost about 3 o 4 seconds.
Regards.
Sorry if i looked to aggressive by overtaking TCC cars, but everytime i have to overtake one, I have lost about 3 o 4 seconds.
Regards.
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