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TORA Carrera Cup 2018 - GENERAL DISCUSSION

Post by Matt on Fri 5 Jan 2018 - 16:37

Welcome to the TORA Carrera Cup 2018.
All discussion for the upcoming races can be found here!



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Post by Koenigsegg R on Fri 27 Apr 2018 - 16:31

Can series organisers double check each topic for stated dates, times and series name? There are quite a few mistakes in numerous topics (and Twitter).


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Post by Matt on Fri 27 Apr 2018 - 16:40

Twitter was my mistake because I am at work - balancing running a department with this (a hobby let's not forget)



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Post by CC GGRacing on Fri 27 Apr 2018 - 17:41

Lethal Gaming Racing team will be looking forward to this. Sadly I'll be missing all these races due to school & golf that I have to do. Smile
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Post by HCR HaydieT on Sat 28 Apr 2018 - 1:14

500hp porsche with no front aero. I get you want to make the series realistic but that just makes the car terrible to drive. All 911s have horrendous understeer in forza and you want to compound the issue because they don't have a front splitter in real life? Seem ludicrous to me. Mad
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Post by SubaruWRX522 on Sat 28 Apr 2018 - 4:36

Bummed I can't compete in this series due to my work schedule on week days. Good luck to everyone competing!
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Post by MNR Nightlocke on Sun 29 Apr 2018 - 10:07

I wish I could run this series, sadly I'm working on Tuesdays.


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Post by BG Cowboy on Sun 29 Apr 2018 - 22:14

I've registered but without having the car unlocked it's a shot in the dark as to whether I'll even enjoy driving it.
Even then I'm going to be on the back foot when it comes to building and tuning the thing (whenever it turns up).

Seriously, along with no class leaderboards, locking close to 15% of the cars (93 locked/(688 total at release - 34 Forza Editions)) so you can't just go to the dealership and buy one has to be up there alongside filling the Hindenburg With Hydrogen. scratch
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Post by blkghost187 on Mon 30 Apr 2018 - 1:01

I would compete, but working on the weekdays. Have fun everyone! I'll watch the standings!
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Re: TORA Carrera Cup 2018 - GENERAL DISCUSSION

Post by Matt on Tue 1 May 2018 - 10:59

Please note that due to a bug found on our docs that affected a number of series the Carrera Cup is being pushed back by a week to allow the bug to be removed and docs reproduced. This will also allow teams more time to prepare for the season.

Round 1 is now 15th May



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Post by FRD Mr Angry on Tue 1 May 2018 - 20:13

Is the car a 911 or 991 ? It states 991 in vehicle build but cant find the car. I know its a loot car and i have the 2016 911 GT3 RS
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Post by BG Cowboy on Tue 1 May 2018 - 20:41

OG Mr Angry wrote:Is the car a 911 or 991 ? It states 991 in vehicle build but cant find the car. I know its a loot car and i have the 2016 911 GT3 RS
Then you should have the correct car. It starts at a stock PI of S750.
The 911 is the model of the car. The 991 is the generation of car (previous gerations include 997, 996, 993 etc.)
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Post by FRD Mr Angry on Tue 1 May 2018 - 20:46

BG Cowboy wrote:
OG Mr Angry wrote:Is the car a 911 or 991 ? It states 991 in vehicle build but cant find the car. I know its a loot car and i have the 2016 911 GT3 RS
Then you should have the correct car. It starts at a stock PI of S750.
The 911 is the model of the car. The 991 is the generation of car (previous gerations include 997, 996, 993 etc.)

Cheers mate,thanks for clearing it up for me, i can stop panicking and stark working on a tune & livery
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Post by S2M Ranger on Wed 2 May 2018 - 6:27

I cant seem to be able to see the livery images in order to put the logos in the right place, also if people can't paint how are they ment to do a livery ? Yes I can paint but haven't the time to make up all the logos needed for the comp due to work and I can't share a paint and ask the person who can't paint to put stuff on due to us not being able to share locked stuff. I understand you want it as close to real life but this is a silly for some to psint
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Post by DOR stug77 on Wed 2 May 2018 - 9:31

S2M Ranger wrote:I cant seem to be able to see the livery images in order to put the logos in the right place, also if people can't paint how are they ment to do a livery ? Yes I can paint but haven't the time to make up all the logos needed for the comp due to work and I can't share a paint and ask the person who can't paint to put stuff on due to us not being able to share locked stuff. I understand you want it as close to real life but this is a silly for some to psint

If your doing a team paint create the main portion of it without the logos you can't make and group and share each area e.g. left side.right side.front.rear and roof.
And then get team mates to download the other required vinals from bigben
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Post by Veloce ForceOne on Thu 10 May 2018 - 23:05

Any thoughts on track limits for Hockenheim? Obviously in a few other TORA series the turn 1 extension has been allowed to make the racing and stewarding easier to handle; I am curious to see if we could do the same for this series as well.
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Post by DriftiNHero on Fri 11 May 2018 - 0:51

I would guess the ruling would be the same as we had in Hot Hatch.
The green out of Turn 1 ("Forza clean") to be allowed but no more.



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Post by DOR stug77 on Tue 15 May 2018 - 14:52

>>> hate to have to do this but due to a family emergency I'm not able to make it this evening
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Post by DriftiNHero on Tue 15 May 2018 - 15:50

DOR stug77 wrote:>>> hate to have to do this but due to a family emergency I'm not able to make it this evening

Sorry to hear that man.
Take it easy and all the best.



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As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep.
But if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride.

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Post by DriftiNHero on Tue 22 May 2018 - 21:59

SOS for A Lobby Replay for Race 1 this evening.



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But if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride.

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Post by HCR VoRTeX9 on Tue 22 May 2018 - 23:14

I'm done for the series enjoy the rest of your races lads
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Post by BG Cowboy on Wed 23 May 2018 - 7:29

There was some funky stuff going on with fuel and tyre wear last night.

In Race 1: ESC Darken, MRT ANM 79, THR Astonash, ProvokedLeaf347 and myself all show as having no tyre wear in my replay.
In Race 2: ESC Darken, MRT ANM 79, THR Astonash and iAaronSweeney all show as having no tyre wear in my replay.

I did notice in Race 1 but it was not until around Lap 6 (when they tyres typically start yellowing in the HUD) by which time I thought it would be too late to call for a restart and had no idea if it was an issue isolated to myself.

When we got back to the lobby after the race, I checked the settings and they were all as they should be with damage set to simulation etc. - see image at bottom of post for verification.

For me, tyre wear came back for Race 2 and I definitely felt the car handling differently as the race progressed.
However, with an issue like this being present it needs testing to see whether it is the car, the track, the game and what can be done about it. I know going to cosmetic damage only would probably be a last resort but we need to find something to make it fair.

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Post by DriftiNHero on Wed 23 May 2018 - 7:46

BG Cowboy wrote:There was some funky stuff going on with fuel and tyre wear last night.

In Race 1: ESC Darken, MRT ANM 79, THR Astonash, ProvokedLeaf347 and myself all show as having no tyre wear in my replay.
In Race 2: ESC Darken, MRT ANM 79, THR Astonash and iAaronSweeney all show as having no tyre wear in my replay.

I did notice in Race 1 but it was not until around Lap 6 (when they tyres typically start yellowing in the HUD) by which time I thought it would be too late to call for a restart and had no idea if it was an issue isolated to myself.

When we got back to the lobby after the race, I checked the settings and they were all as they should be with damage set to simulation etc. - see image at bottom of post for verification.

For me, tyre wear came back for Race 2 and I definitely felt the car handling differently as the race progressed.
However, with an issue like this being present it needs testing to see whether it is the car, the track, the game and what can be done about it. I know going to cosmetic damage only would probably be a last resort but we need to find something to make it fair.

This has been a known issue in other series already.

The known glitch in the game here are the personal settings of the drivers in the assists menu.

Therefore we ask all competitors to check their personal settings are also set to simulation so as to stop this glitch from happening.

So to all competitors please check in future your assists are set to Simulation Damage as well.

If this is not the case then it can lead to an unfair advantage and maybe result in a minor penalty.

If the glitch does occur for you it is your responsibility to let the lobby host know so that in a case where it is crucial they can deal with the situation as and when it comes.

Many thanks.



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As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep.
But if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride.

If you have everything under control, you're not moving fast enough.


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2018 12 Hours Sebring                5th Overall Prototypes
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Post by DriftiNHero on Wed 23 May 2018 - 7:48

HCR VoRTeX9 wrote:I'm done for the series enjoy the rest of your races lads

Sorry to hear you sign out.
See you elsewhere on track.



Drive Clean. Drive Fast.

As I lay rubber down the street, I pray for traction I can keep.
But if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God protect my ride.

If you have everything under control, you're not moving fast enough.


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2018 TCC                                 4th Drivers,                3rd Teams
2018 Carrera Cup                       1st Drivers Pro-Am,     2nd Teams Pro-Am
2018 Hot Hatch Europe               5th Drivers,                2nd Teams
2018 12 Hours Sebring                5th Overall Prototypes
2018 American Iron UK                3rd Drivers,                1st Teams
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Post by BG Cowboy on Wed 23 May 2018 - 15:29

DriftiNHero wrote:
BG Cowboy wrote:There was some funky stuff going on with fuel and tyre wear last night.

In Race 1: ESC Darken, MRT ANM 79, THR Astonash, ProvokedLeaf347 and myself all show as having no tyre wear in my replay.
In Race 2: ESC Darken, MRT ANM 79, THR Astonash and iAaronSweeney all show as having no tyre wear in my replay.

I did notice in Race 1 but it was not until around Lap 6 (when they tyres typically start yellowing in the HUD) by which time I thought it would be too late to call for a restart and had no idea if it was an issue isolated to myself.

When we got back to the lobby after the race, I checked the settings and they were all as they should be with damage set to simulation etc. - see image at bottom of post for verification.

For me, tyre wear came back for Race 2 and I definitely felt the car handling differently as the race progressed.
However, with an issue like this being present it needs testing to see whether it is the car, the track, the game and what can be done about it. I know going to cosmetic damage only would probably be a last resort but we need to find something to make it fair.

This has been a known issue in other series already.

The known glitch in the game here are the personal settings of the drivers in the assists menu.

Therefore we ask all competitors to check their personal settings are also set to simulation so as to stop this glitch from happening.

So to all competitors please check in future your assists are set to Simulation Damage as well.

If this is not the case then it can lead to an unfair advantage and maybe result in a minor penalty.

If the glitch does occur for you it is your responsibility to let the lobby host know so that in a case where it is crucial they can deal with the situation as and when it comes.

Many thanks.

It's interesting that you say it's a known issue yet there is nothing covering it in the rules, it's never been mentioned in a lobby and I don't see any sticky post about it - something the staff and marshalls should probably consider doing if there could be penalties handed out for it.

Granted, I've only been back on TORA (and FM7 for that matter) for a couple of months now but this is the first time I've noticed it. If it is something that has been discussed in my absence then it is entirely possible that it could happen to future new and returning members.

Hopefully my raising of this issue will promote some sort of awareness of this issue for others too.
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