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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by F4H Diablo on Mon 12 Mar 2018 - 19:54

LazyDandy wrote:

Here is a comparison of the cars. Builds are not optimal, but you get a rough idea.

You do realize the minimum weight on these cars is 2600 lbs, right?


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Post by HCR Dandy on Mon 12 Mar 2018 - 20:22

Haha thanks mate. Dont know how but i thought it was 2500;)

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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Midnite Rider on Mon 12 Mar 2018 - 20:33

Nevermind, I will not be running this after all, seeing as some cars cannot be bought in the auction house, IE the 2 that were in the specialty shop I cannot buy in the auction house as there is no way to search for it as it is not listed as a viable car in the auction house and the fact that TCS and ABS are forced off. I can run as fast as anyone not using ABS with mine on regardless of what others have commented. I refuse to run without ABS so guess I will find my racing elsewhere. I thought it would be nice to get back into organized racing but I see things have changed and I have no interest in racing with people who think they can tell others what assists they should or should not be using and that they will ruin faster if they do whatever they insist is the only way to race. Save it for the kids, I am no kid, I will not be told what assist I should or should not be using and I don't need the crap in my life. Have fun with your series and people like Chief Tokenbowl should keep his opinions to themselves. Tomcat is no kid either and doesn't need to be admonished over his use of ABS!

Also regardless of what has been said here as well over tinted windows, I have run with tinted windows always, even when I raced here before and it never was an issue with ghosting and I have experimented with 7 and it has no issue ghosting my tint either.

So, no tint, no TCS and no ABS means no Midnite Rider, sorry Mikey.


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Post by Lanrell21 on Mon 12 Mar 2018 - 20:47

I also have to say no, sorry
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Post by Chief Tokembowl on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 0:08

Midnite Rider wrote: Save it for the kids, I am no kid, I will not be told what assist I should or should not be using and I don't need the crap in my life. Have fun with your series and people like Chief Tokenbowl should keep his opinions to themselves. Tomcat is no kid either and doesn't need to be admonished over his use of ABS!


So, no tint, no TCS and no ABS means no Midnite Rider, sorry Mikey.

Calm down there, I wasn't trying to admonish anyone, just trying to help out. When I first started running off this site, I almost dropped out because they don't allow assists, but I decided to drop the training wheels and got a lot faster as a result. I'm not the fastest around but I've been asking questions of the faster guys and getting better, just trying to pass on some of what I have learned. Not trying to talk down to anyone.
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Post by Midnite Rider on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 1:42

I am calm, I don't have the issue, I always quietly laugh at people like you but decided not to keep quiet this time. I, personally have been on Xbox Live 15 years and been playing Forza since the 1st version, I, without using clutch, using TCS & ABS beat the majority of the people I race. This is not a Nascar event, I don't run without assists unless it is Nascar (again this is my personal preference and don't really care what anyone else thinks about it). Just because it works for you doesn't mean it works for others and he was not asking for advice. So basically unless someone is asking for your help you should keep your opinions to yourself, this applies in real life as well. Maybe you should take a look at yourself and rethink the way you do things.


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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by EZT Neo 45 on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 3:54

Flyin Mikey J wrote:When you buy the 2016 Honda, buy it homologated, as that way it comes with the restrictor and a few extra bits for no extra charge.
There's no way to build the 16 Civic (or is it a 15?) to the required specs! At least I haven't found a build that does.




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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 6:32

EZT Neo 45 wrote:
Flyin Mikey J wrote:When you buy the 2016 Honda, buy it homologated, as that way it comes with the restrictor and a few extra bits for no extra charge.
There's no way to build the 16 Civic (or is it a 15?) to the required specs!  At least I haven't found a build that does.

It allows for very few upgrades but does require the "hololgation restrictor" to fit the HP rules.


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 6:37

As for the lack of assists, this is exactly the way TCC has been run since its inception. Sorry if it keeps anyone from racing in this series, but to say that anything has changed over time, sorry that is not the case at all. Not sure where anyone had thought otherwise.


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 6:45

I am thinking of nixing the 07 Civic. Not because it is any better than other cars as much as because everyone thinks it is.


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Post by HCR Dandy on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 6:55

Just toss it out so we get more variety in cars. Otherwise 50% will be civics

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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 7:23

I'll make a decision by Friday.


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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Midnite Rider on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 9:08

Flyin Mikey J wrote:As for the lack of assists, this is exactly the way TCC has been run since its inception. Sorry if it keeps anyone from racing in this series, but to say that anything has changed over time, sorry that is not the case at all. Not sure where anyone had thought otherwise.

Did not mean to imply it had changed in any way, shape or form Mikey. Sorry for the confusion there. Cheers


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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 17:32

Would anyone be interested in doing an open practice lobby of 6-10 laps per circuit this week?

Thinking 8 or 9 PM EDT Weds and/or 8 PM GMT Thurs.


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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Chief Tokembowl on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 17:37

Flyin Mikey J wrote:Would anyone be interested in doing an open practice lobby of 6-10 laps per circuit this week?

Thinking 8 or 9 PM EDT Weds and/or 8 PM GMT Thurs.

can't make any guarantees, but I'd probly be down for that on wednesday.
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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by EZT Neo 45 on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 18:56

Flyin Mikey J wrote:
EZT Neo 45 wrote:
Flyin Mikey J wrote:When you buy the 2016 Honda, buy it homologated, as that way it comes with the restrictor and a few extra bits for no extra charge.
There's no way to build the 16 Civic (or is it a 15?) to the required specs!  At least I haven't found a build that does.

It allows for very few upgrades but does require the "hololgation restrictor" to fit the HP rules.
How do you get it to make the weight specs?




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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by HCR Dandy on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 20:17

fit the restrictor heavy rims and sport arb should get you to 281hp with 2713 weight

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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Chief Tokembowl on Tue 13 Mar 2018 - 21:16

LazyDandy wrote:fit the restrictor heavy rims and sport arb should get you to 281hp with 2713 weight

i had to make the rims bigger to get it under the PI restriction as well
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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 2:46

Note: As of March 14, 2018

The 20017 Honda Civic Type-R has received a PI drop. New PI: 585


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Post by HCR Dandy on Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 5:07

Flyin Mikey J wrote:Note: As of March 14, 2018

The 20017 Honda Civic Type-R has received a PI drop. New PI: 685

Its propably late and you mean 585;)

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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Thu 15 Mar 2018 - 6:11

Not actually very late, but I was indeed very tired. Anyways, we'll be using that PI for the UK test and evaluate.


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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by EZT TomCat7 on Fri 16 Mar 2018 - 13:04

I ran the Honda 2007 civic with your new PI585 Tune and got a best lap of 52.6.
That is 5 tenths slower than my PI600 best of 52.1

So now I will decide if I'm going to try other cars or maybe some one else will come up with a new tune.
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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Ax4x Mikey J on Fri 16 Mar 2018 - 16:15

That 5 tenths off is actually about right on the money, as it was 4-6 tenths better than the next best car for most people. Hence the need to ding it a few PI.


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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by BG Cowboy on Sun 18 Mar 2018 - 22:09

I've been having a little play around tonight with something. Couple of builds and a quick tune but I'm not sure if it's my familiarity with the game growing or just the number of laps in this car but I've slowly worked my way down to a low 51. Far from consistent and definitely room for improvement but as Brands is one of my local tracks then it could be the perfect place to jump back in to racing.

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Re: Hot Hatch Challenge Discussion

Post by Chief Tokembowl on Mon 19 Mar 2018 - 19:14

are passing points going to count towards the overall standings? or just for the steve colgate award this time?
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