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Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

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Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by Ax4x Big Ben on Sun 6 Jan 2019 - 19:01


TORA Endurance: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona

Welcome to the 2019 TORA Classic 24 Hours of Daytona!  Daytona is a track that needs no introduction.  A track literally purpose built for NASCAR, Daytona has hosted racing of all types since its construction was finished in 1959.  A Daytona 24 endurance race had become a stable of the TORA calendar and the new car list will offer up a different challenge.  This year we are featuring a selection of cars of the IMSA GTP and GTO era.  An era of big horsepower, and even bigger rear wings.  

Qualifying - This will be the typical 1-Hour Endurance Qualifying.  Drivers will have 45 minutes to set their fastest clean lap.  We will be adding the best qualifying results from each team, so remember that more than one driver has to take part in qualifying.  To sign up for qualifying, please use THE QUALIFYING THREAD.  Remember that drivers should be/appear online 15 minutes prior to qualifying start, and should keep in-lobby chat to a minimal.  

Race - This is a 24 hour Endurance race.  Drivers will be competing in 12 stints of two hours each.  However, drivers are reminded that the stint actually only lasts 1 hour and 40 minutes. Drivers are reminded that they are to use THE STINT THREAD to assign stints to each of their drivers.  Drivers are expected to be familiar with the rules and regulations come race time, so please review them before January 20th.  A reminder that drivers are not allowed to double stint during the halfway point between stint 6 and stint 7 so we can try and get the race back on track.  

Pit Stops - Both classes will have to do 3 pit stops during each stint.  Remember that drivers will not be permitted to drive on the track (and/or grass) back to the pit entrance once they pass it.  If they miss the pit entrance, drivers will have to drive around the track again to get back to the pit entrance.  

Assists - The usual assist limits will be in place for this race.  The only assists that will be banned during this race are assisted steering, assisted braking, friction assist and collision assist.  All other assists will be allowed.  


Stint Starting Procedures - Stint 1 will start with a typical 80 mph 2x2 Rolling Start.  Stint 2 thru 12 will be a single file start, starting as cars exit the International Horseshoe (Turn 3) as shown below.  Remember that drivers are not to accelerate to race pace once THEY pass the designated start point.  




If anyone has further questions, please post them in this thread.  Good luck, and I will see you all on track.


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Track Limits for Daytona

Post by Ax4x Big Ben on Sun 6 Jan 2019 - 19:07

For this race, we are making clarifications as to track limits at specific sections of the track. If it is not specified, 2 wheels MUST remain on track at all times, designated by the lines on the outside of the track.


Entrance to the Bus Stop Chicane
This is legal!


This is not.



Exit of Bus Stop Chicane
This is legal!


This is not.



NOTE: This is for the race only!  The above track extensions will be dirty under the new track limits.  Drivers will still have to produce clean laps during qualifying.



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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by Jan Filip S on Mon 7 Jan 2019 - 22:14

What is the reason behind 2 tires on grass being legal?

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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by Ax4x Big Ben on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 1:52

Jan Filip S wrote:What is the reason behind 2 tires on grass being legal?
Basically so the Stewards don't spend half the race giving people penalties for accidentally cutting the track there.



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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by BDR Spice on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 2:23

What is the reason for requiring 3 pit stops per stint? Can't every car make it on 1 or 2?

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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by SFM Darkzer on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 3:44

BDR Spice wrote:What is the reason for requiring 3 pit stops per stint? Can't every car make it on 1 or 2?

We base the pit stops per class on the least efficient car.

For that reason, GTP & GTO are 3 stops.


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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by BDR Spice on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 3:49

Ok, I understand. Is there a penalty for doing fewer than 3 stops?

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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by SVR Solar on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 3:51

BDR Spice wrote:Ok, I understand. Is there a penalty for doing fewer than 3 stops?

yes you will be disqualified from the stint...
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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by BDR Spice on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 3:59

Cool

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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by BDR Remo on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 5:14

What GTO car cannot 2 stop? I know the two least efficient cars are the audi and nissan and they can both do 2 stops easily? Plus isn’t pit strategy a key part of motorsport? Key part of motorsport casually being taken away...

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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by Koenigsegg R on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 5:52

One of the reasons GTO is also 3 pit stops is due to pit strategy. Pit strategy is basically non-existent with 2 mandatory pit stops.


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Post by DJProfessorK72 on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 18:05

I don't usually get too hot & bothered about the rules and such, but if the lines are brightly shown on the track, why shouldn't they be enforced (I know, less work)?

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Post by Koenigsegg R on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 20:38

DJProfessorK72 wrote:but if the lines are brightly shown on the track
Not everyone uses the track indicators during qualy and, or, race though.


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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by DJProfessorK72 on Tue 8 Jan 2019 - 23:15

Koenigsegg R wrote:
DJProfessorK72 wrote:but if the lines are brightly shown on the track
Not everyone uses the track indicators during qualy and, or, race though.

But should that not be the standard utilized? It is uniform at the very least. It's not like your line is, say, 3 ft wider than mine or Ben's.

It's not a major deal, and the rules as presented are pragmatic. No one wants to spend days looking at the footage. I guess my only concern is someone is going to try a divebomb that we know won't ever work. Because that track limit is widened, the bad racing decision might not be properly punished.

Either way, that's enough of my grumbling about it. This is the event I've been waiting on for a long time so I'm going to enjoy it.

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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by LMR Harmonic on Wed 9 Jan 2019 - 1:44

BDR Remo wrote:What GTO car cannot 2 stop? I know the two least efficient cars are the audi and nissan and they can both do 2 stops easily? Plus isn’t pit strategy a key part of motorsport? Key part of motorsport casually being taken away...

The Nissan is way too close to 2 stop. If you miss your windows by more than a couple laps combined over the course of an entire stint, you'll run out. With 3 stops, it introduces more strategy as you can gain and lose positions depending on when you choose to pit instead of just staying out as long as possible.
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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by SFM Darkzer on Wed 9 Jan 2019 - 3:09

LMR Harmonic wrote:
BDR Remo wrote:What GTO car cannot 2 stop? I know the two least efficient cars are the audi and nissan and they can both do 2 stops easily? Plus isn’t pit strategy a key part of motorsport? Key part of motorsport casually being taken away...

The Nissan is way too close to 2 stop. If you miss your windows by more than a couple laps combined over the course of an entire stint, you'll run out. With 3 stops, it introduces more strategy as you can gain and lose positions depending on when you choose to pit instead of just staying out as long as possible.

^ this

Also, TCS usage will alter fuel, and with it being so close, 3 stops levels the playing field.


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Re: Classic 24 Hours of Daytona - Driver's Briefing

Post by Ax4x Big Ben on Wed 9 Jan 2019 - 3:33

All of those reasons, and I decided to make it the same amount for both classes because it would be easier for everyone to remember.



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Post by blkghost187 on Sun 13 Jan 2019 - 14:20

Track Limit question....During qualifying going through bus stop as posted above will be legal correct? I know it says during the race is ok.
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Post by Aerox Vettel on Sun 13 Jan 2019 - 14:46

blkghost187 wrote:Track Limit question....During qualifying going through bus stop as posted above will be legal correct? I know it says during the race is ok.

Qualifying runs under Forza track limits. So no.

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Post by blkghost187 on Sun 13 Jan 2019 - 14:47

Okay. Thanks!
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