2011 Spotter Guides

Jesus christ man, its a sticker on your car!. Not the end of the world man grow up and get on with it will ya.

WWR Aero wrote:You won't be thrown out, you just won't score any points....

FINE! I won't compete then if thats your attitude to everything! I'll have a word with my team mates and I'll get to pull out of the series if thats the case. I am refusing to be dictated like this!

Hahaha see ya at the first race then Dan.

Right guys, that's enough. Dan has made his opinion very clear about running a mandatory logo from our sponsor. If he chooses not to use it then he can still race but he will score 0 points. Simple as that. It's only a logo from a very generous group who wants to help TORA.

DAN 2605 wrote:

WWR Aero wrote:You won't be thrown out, you just won't score any points....

FINE! I won't compete then if thats your attitude to everything! I'll have a word with my team mates and I'll get to pull out of the series if thats the case. I am refusing to be dictated like this!

I know that you clearly have an issue with this logo, but if you want to take part in something (anything) being run by an organisation where you are not one of the decision makers, then you have to follow their rules/requirements.

You are not being "dictated to", you are being told the requirements of entry/registration. If you do not agree, do not apply/withdraw. Your comment is noted, however we will not be changing this requirement as PLOW have been very generous to offer this sponsorship deal and the small repayment that they require, is for all cars to carry a PLOW sponsor logo, which we have agreed is a reasonable request.

Any car not carrying the correct logos, number boxes and window banners will score 0 pts until such time as they meet these requirements.
Any driver who does not submit their paint for scrutineering/spotter guide/team profile creation will not be allowed to race until they do so or by special arrangement with the Chief Marshall (that'd be me!).

FINE! It doesn't mean that I've changed my mind though! I will have to think about it over the next couple of days! But even if I enter still, I wouldn't be happy about running it. YES! I know that they will be helping with TORA's image. But the point I'm trying to make is that they are still a seperate race team.
Thing is truthfully, I want to enter this series! I don't want to quit! But if only I can work some compromise. Whether I can convince myself to run another teams logo on my car.
It would have been a lot easier if you had the choice of whether you wanted to or not without any kind of penalty (scoring no points at all) because not everyone wants to run the logo, not just myself!

Just let me think about it the next few days.

its troff wrote:

WWR Aero wrote:These are to acknowledge PLOW's generous sponsorship program for the 2011 season and are required to be on all cars.

...not on mine

...not on mine, either!

im not running PLOW stickers either guys sorry

Can you not use your imagination to find a way to discretely incorporate them?

Then I'll refer you again to this:

WWR Aero wrote:Any car not carrying the correct logos, number boxes and window banners will score 0 pts until such time as they meet these requirements.
Any driver who does not submit their paint for scrutineering/spotter guide/team profile creation will not be allowed to race until they do so or by special arrangement with the Chief Marshall (that'd be me!).

ok ill score no points

Dan, Chaddy. Do everyone a favour and grow the hell up it's a sticker you either put it on your car and race or you dont race this is just pathetic guys seriously you both had no problem when we used to have AG Tuning logos on the car so grow up!

Looks like there will be alot of money up for grabs for me since you lot are being ****(very smart people)

All i can say is......grow up, stop being childish and get a grip.

As I have said before, don't think we need very narrow minded people that moan....ALL the time, but who am I to talk

this is about principles!

the constitution, freedom...america.

liberty.


guns.

i have my reasons that i dont want to run it so just stop saying to grow up the LOT of ya. if i dont want to run it and not score points SO BE IT.

chaddy and troff and i will start our own team called NO POINTS RACING.



it wont go anywhere. and will be very vague.


hehe.

lol sounds cool gen!

gen3ral ts0 wrote:this is about principles!

the constitution, freedom...america.

liberty.


guns.

That one works with your Omar logo, it doesnt work so well with your epileptic cat logo.

you kidding me? omar dosent believe in america.

omar believes in omar.

ok so ive only watched the entire Wire box-set ONCE

gen3ral ts0 wrote:chaddy and troff and i will start our own team called NO POINTS RACING.

I like it! lol Or we could create our own second division in each championship!

its troff wrote:...not on mine.

gen3ral ts0 wrote:...not on mine, either!

FranchittiFan wrote:im not running PLOW stickers either guys sorry

See. Not everyone wants to run it! Can people get out of their heads as well that I'm really disliking PLOW! I wouldn't really be happy with any teams sticker on.
The only way we will run it if we can work some kind of compromise.

But just a questions as well. How would everyone honestly feel if they was told to run with a Champion Racing, Vibe Entertainments or even an Austins Motorsport logo as an example if we was doing the same thing as Plow?

@lfcnicklfc - There is a difference between AG Tuning and Plow! AG Tuning are a tuning organisation. Plow is a race team. Yes, they do tuning! But they are essentially a racing team just like WWR, Champion Racing or Vibe Entertainments Racing.

AG Tuning are exactly the same as Plow, they both have their own race team as well as focusing on releasing tunes for the public, the BGT Series 1 champion was one of the guys from AG Tuning they're exactly the same Dan!

And there is also only one place the "shiny" plow logo can go without ruining the Aston-Gulf livery...



And yet it still ruins it with the red, unless we're allowed to modify it to match the colour scheme, but then begins to look more like the team that are running the cars.

Theres also only one feasable place for the plain "top" logo.



In with the roof banner.

Dan, you may disagree, and I may be out of a series, why bother making that much of an effort, even if its for money that isnt real.

There is another solution, but I dont think PLOW would agree with it, even if it isnt the obvious.

http://plow-motorsport.forumotion.com/forum

More than just a race team.