MSA TORA TCC Season 8 - General Discussion

Slider S15 wrote:Such a bad meeting for me.

Race 1: Lagged out

Race 2: went from 13th - 8th but managed to hit MVG Skyshadow (AGAIN, IT's nothing personal I swear!)

Race 3: The lag was so bad I couldn't hear the lobby host and all the cars were flying around so I quit to try and save everyone else's race.

REALLY frustrated after all the work I put into the car and hate feeling like I've let down the guys at Nankang UK.

CQR CHRiS wrote:

TG Haydo wrote:Worst racing I've ever been apart of since I joined TORA. 2 of my races got screwed on the first lap & I can't imagine anything better for Tsukuba.

It wasnt that bad Haydo, theres been worse races in the past. The lag currently surrounding forza really isnt helping though an moves are being mis-read. Makes me think T10 are slowly moving there current server equipment over to next gen and only keeping a limited amount for 360.

CQR MAGiC wrote:I personally found that a really hard track to race close on, but really enjoyed my battles with Amarth and Type R

Think maybe some people with slower connection are struggling with 15 player lobbies, which can make it difficult to race closely.

Sporting Regs wrote:"Passing General
The responsibility for the decision to pass another car, and to do it safely, rests with the overtaking driver. The overtaken driver should be aware that he/she is being passed and must not impede the pass by blocking. A driver who does not watch his/her mirrors or who appears to be blocking another car seeking a pass may be black-flagged and/or penalized. The act of passing is initiated when the trailing car’s (Car A) front bumper overlaps with the lead car’s (Car B) rear bumper. The act of passing is complete when Car A’s rear bumper is ahead of Car B’s front bumper. “NO PASSING” means a pass cannot even be initiated. Any overlap in a NO PASSING area is considered illegal.

Punting
The term “punting” is defined as nose to tail (or side-of-the-nose to side-of-the-tail) contact, where the leading car is significantly knocked off of the racing line. Once the trailing car has its front wheel next to the driver of the other vehicle, it is considered that the trailing car has a right to be there. And, that the leading driver must leave the trailing driver enough “racing room.” In most cases, “racing room” is defined as “at least three quarters of one car width.” If adequate racing room is left for the trailing car, and there is incidental contact made between the cars, the contact will be considered “side-to-side.”

Blocking
A driver may choose to protect his or her line so long as it is not considered blocking. Blocking is defined as two (2) consecutive line changes to “protect his/her line,” and in doing so, impedes the vehicle that is trying to pass with each of the two (2) consecutive movements. Drivers are encouraged to check with the Race Director for a full explanation before the start of the race. If, in the case of side-to-side contact, one of the two cars leaves the racing surface (involuntarily) then it may still be considered “a racing incident.”

Right to the Line
The driver in front has the right to choose any line, so long as not to be considered blocking. The driver attempting to make a pass shall have the right to the line when their front wheel is next to the driver of the other vehicle. Note: This rule may be superseded by class specific rules."

MVG skyshadow5 wrote:

Slider S15 wrote:Such a bad meeting for me.

Race 1: Lagged out

Race 2: went from 13th - 8th but managed to hit MVG Skyshadow (AGAIN, IT's nothing personal I swear!)

Race 3: The lag was so bad I couldn't hear the lobby host and all the cars were flying around so I quit to try and save everyone else's race.

REALLY frustrated after all the work I put into the car and hate feeling like I've let down the guys at Nankang UK.

What! I gotta raise another SI against you? My guys are now running a book on how many I'm gonna raise each meet  

Seriously though, you had so much of a lag issue tonight raising an SI would only be rubbing salt into the wound; we'll forget about that one  

~sky~

CQR MAGiC wrote:I watched the A lobby replays back again last night, and a few controversial incidents aside, there was some really good racing going on. Race 2 there were 5 changes for the lead between 3 drivers in the first 9 laps, for the overall race win

Most of the incidents I've seen and heard about from other lobbies seem to stem from drivers 'crowding', 'impeding' or not allowing room for a car alongside. There were a few occasions where a car behind was crowded off the track, causing contact which could have been avoided. Might be worth re-reading the TORA Sporting Regulations on passing, punting, blocking and right-to-line:

Sporting Regs wrote:"Passing General
The responsibility for the decision to pass another car, and to do it safely, rests with the overtaking driver. The overtaken driver should be aware that he/she is being passed and must not impede the pass by blocking. A driver who does not watch his/her mirrors or who appears to be blocking another car seeking a pass may be black-flagged and/or penalized. The act of passing is initiated when the trailing car’s (Car A) front bumper overlaps with the lead car’s (Car B) rear bumper. The act of passing is complete when Car A’s rear bumper is ahead of Car B’s front bumper. “NO PASSING” means a pass cannot even be initiated. Any overlap in a NO PASSING area is considered illegal.

Punting
The term “punting” is defined as nose to tail (or side-of-the-nose to side-of-the-tail) contact, where the leading car is significantly knocked off of the racing line. Once the trailing car has its front wheel next to the driver of the other vehicle, it is considered that the trailing car has a right to be there. And, that the leading driver must leave the trailing driver enough “racing room.” In most cases, “racing room” is defined as “at least three quarters of one car width.” If adequate racing room is left for the trailing car, and there is incidental contact made between the cars, the contact will be considered “side-to-side.”

Blocking
A driver may choose to protect his or her line so long as it is not considered blocking. Blocking is defined as two (2) consecutive line changes to “protect his/her line,” and in doing so, impedes the vehicle that is trying to pass with each of the two (2) consecutive movements. Drivers are encouraged to check with the Race Director for a full explanation before the start of the race. If, in the case of side-to-side contact, one of the two cars leaves the racing surface (involuntarily) then it may still be considered “a racing incident.”

Right to the Line
The driver in front has the right to choose any line, so long as not to be considered blocking. The driver attempting to make a pass shall have the right to the line when their front wheel is next to the driver of the other vehicle. Note: This rule may be superseded by class specific rules."

Full rules: http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t8957-tora-2013-sporting-regulations

TFR Magic wrote:Question - how do the sporting regs work out if it's three abreast?

TG Haydo wrote:Don't get me started on Tsukuba!