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Post by Guest on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 20:35

If a lobby is full with the correct people, start, don't wait for other lobbies to sort themselves out to. They can sort it and get going somehow, If the full lobby sits and waits, its very frustrating.

All lobby hosts should already have the settings saved.

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Post by CQR Rogue on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 20:43

that is correct Matt however, if the person can not connect to x lobby host the y lobby host would take that person, if y is unable to connect driver z lobby host would try or we just say if you can not connect not staff down to user but we dont unless you want us to that is


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Post by Guest on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 21:08

if x lobby is full with the correct people none of that makes any difference surely. They just go with who they have?

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Post by CQR Rogue on Sun 22 Apr 2012 - 21:17

oh if the lobby is full and there is no more room then yes, sorry I thought you ment if quali lobby was ready meaning usally more spaces for ppl to join, yes the lobby should go when full Smile


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Post by EZT Challenger on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 17:41

Ladies & Gentleman of TORA,

I prupose a driver ratings scale be introduced to our online racing community. Below you will find IMSA's (ALMS) current driver ratings form, that helps them categorize their drivers into 1 of 4 standings; Platinum(professionals), Gold (semi-pro), Silver (amateur), and Bronze (rookie). We need not have all 4, I feel 2 or 3 standings would more than suffice, and we can surely simplify the process.

IMSA Driver Rating Form

My belief is that giving these standings out will help encourage the slower, less apt to tuning, and/or time deficient members of TORA by offering a sub-championship within all of our current championships.

The beauty of developing a structure such as this, is that little to no effort need be done to implement these ratings into all of our current and future championships.

I know some will hate this idea/find it pointless...but I bet upon further review most of those who dislike it would be rated highly in as system such as the one above.
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Post by Biggsy tv on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 18:20

BuckeyeBullet wrote:Ladies & Gentleman of TORA,

I prupose a driver ratings scale be introduced to our online racing community. Below you will find IMSA's (ALMS) current driver ratings form, that helps them categorize their drivers into 1 of 4 standings; Platinum(professionals), Gold (semi-pro), Silver (amateur), and Bronze (rookie). We need not have all 4, I feel 2 or 3 standings would more than suffice, and we can surely simplify the process.

IMSA Driver Rating Form

My belief is that giving these standings out will help encourage the slower, less apt to tuning, and/or time deficient members of TORA by offering a sub-championship within all of our current championships.

The beauty of developing a structure such as this, is that little to no effort need be done to implement these ratings into all of our current and future championships.

I know some will hate this idea/find it pointless...but I bet upon further review most of those who dislike it would be rated highly in as system such as the one above.

Have you got Skype? I think we need to talk Razz


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Post by Johnnyboy3600 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 18:27



The parrott says it all!

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Post by CQR Rogue on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 18:30

This would work if we look at all TORA history not just recent history from forza 2 this will work, I mean everychampionship race we have ever held etc

Recent history wont reflect drivers skill fro, novice to gold you will only see this from the start of there online racing carrer


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Post by Johnnyboy3600 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 18:33

Not really. There are slow drivers here, middle level and fast drivers. I suppose you could only go up if you improve?

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Post by Guest on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 18:39

surely people are here to race, qualifying puts like speed against like speed in lobbies for the most part. With this system at TORA the only addition it would bring is more work and time just to give out another title / team & drivers champ awards but for being recognised as slower.

Personally, if I'm not winning, I don't want and don't need people to invent things for me to win.

just my 2 pennies

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Post by nickyf1 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 18:58

CQR Magictap wrote:surely people are here to race, qualifying puts like speed against like speed in lobbies for the most part. With this system at TORA the only addition it would bring is more work and time just to give out another title / team & drivers champ awards but for being recognised as slower.

Personally, if I'm not winning, I don't want and don't need people to invent things for me to win.

just my 2 pennies

I completely agree with this.

The fast guys will, and should, always be the fast guys.
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Post by EZT Challenger on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:07

nickyf1 wrote:
CQR Magictap wrote:surely people are here to race, qualifying puts like speed against like speed in lobbies for the most part. With this system at TORA the only addition it would bring is more work and time just to give out another title / team & drivers champ awards but for being recognised as slower.

Personally, if I'm not winning, I don't want and don't need people to invent things for me to win.

just my 2 pennies

I completely agree with this.

The fast guys will, and should, always be the fast guys.

And IMHO this attitude is why TORA will never be embraced by "the slow guys"...I'm not disagreeing with anything stated above, just saying that everyone needs an incentive to race with TORA. For those that cannot compete with the top tier of TORA there is absolutely nothing here to keep their allegiance with us.

My point is: the status quo at TORA is all well and good, but if you are like me and always searching for a way to improve (in our case gain and retain more new members), this is my number 1 suggestion. The amount of work this would take is being over-stated I fear.

For example I know ATR Dan is a Platinum level driver. (I only use him bc he's my teammate) I don't need him to fill anything out, it's a simple stated truth.
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Post by Johnnyboy3600 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:08

The fast guys will be fast guys still. The lower driver have a chance of winning something with this setup. Lot more incentive to drive faster/tune better.

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Post by Guest on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:14

I feel a poll coming on - lets get the community to have a say ;O)

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Post by EZT Challenger on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:22

I was just kidding at first Shocked

But now things are starting to get good Laughing
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Post by BG Hainesy on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:23

If this happens the "slower" drivers will never win anything anyway because you will attract new members who are automatically put in the slowest class who turn out to be as fast as the top boys, thus running away with the tourny. In my opinion it works fine as it is, as due to qualifying, you are racing against people of the same level.
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Post by Johnnyboy3600 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:28

Yes. We are put in groups from quali but what do we get out of it? A great race and a couple of points. At least a different championship for more incentive to be the best of the midfield. And no, new member won't be automatically put in the lowest group. It would be based on their speed/times.

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Post by nickyf1 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:28

Johnnyboy3600 wrote:The fast guys will be fast guys still. The lower driver have a chance of winning something with this setup. Lot more incentive to drive faster/tune better.

But slower drivers don't win, the faster drivers win. It's how the sport works.

Everyone should have the same opportunities and run under the same rules. This isn't a North London school.
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Post by CQR Rogue on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:49

Guys I like the idea but like I said in a previous post this wont happen here


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Post by Johnnyboy3600 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:51

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Post by CQR Rogue on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 19:53

Eaxctly, you always end up having fanstatsic battles thanks to quali etc and race with drivers at a similar level Smile


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Post by Duke of Bruno on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 20:28

Instead of running multiple championships, what if we incorporate the Platinum, Gold, Silver, and Bronze driver levels into out current series with champoinship standings that can show how we are performing overall and against those in specific driver levels.

New people should not be automatically placed in the lowest level as it should be easy to see where they will fit by looking at the level of the drivers they normally compete with after a few races.

Determining driver level will not be an easy thing to do and it may take a long while before TORA can perfect which drivers belong in which level.


[edit]: Basically, exactly what BuckeyeBullet20 was talking about.
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Post by JAMIE ANDERS0N on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 20:50

I think this is a great idea, but it will never happen here


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Post by Richy59 on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 20:56

I have always been a lower lobby driver and know that I could never win anything. I've always accepted this and every night that I turn up to race I only do it for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of racing with everybody in this community, and knowing I'm a slower driver has never put me off from racing.

A ranking system is fine by me as long as it is all a community effort and is only used for a bit of fun, there is no way that TORA can adopt such a system and not be perceived as being biased with it. If someone want to create it on the side it's cool, but we as TORA can't use such a system.


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Post by EZT Challenger on Mon 23 Apr 2012 - 21:34

Richy59 wrote:I have always been a lower lobby driver and know that I could never win anything. I've always accepted this and every night that I turn up to race I only do it for the sheer enjoyment and pleasure of racing with everybody in this community, and knowing I'm a slower driver has never put me off from racing.

A ranking system is fine by me as long as it is all a community effort and is only used for a bit of fun, there is no way that TORA can adopt such a system and not be perceived as being biased with it. If someone want to create it on the side it's cool, but we as TORA can't use such a system.

Well said.
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