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Post by JVz Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:30 pm

So I'm assuming the various LMP builds have been tested a lot over time to make them what they are, but I'm curious: what reasons are behind each car's specific build? Why is the Acura both using the LMP2 version as well as limiting the PI to 990? Doesn't this make it a gimped car? I know the PI varies quite a bit in the GTE class due to aerodynamics and grip and power and such, but what about in LMP? I thought LMP was more equal like F1.
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Post by JVz Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:09 pm

More specifically, shouldn't the Peugeot be a 5% handicap as well? Or is it not because it doesn't have enough grip? Stock 908 has 1.636 g lateral grip, compared with 1.670 g for the R18 for instance, or 1.669 for the AMR One.
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Post by Texaspotatolord Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:10 pm

An LMP2 with more power is an LMP1. That's why just because the Acura starts off as an LMP2 it doesn't need more PI besides the power to be competitive. It already has the handling down, it's just the power it needs.

And yeah, the Peugeot is crap handling.

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Post by CQR Rogue Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:20 pm

stats on forza mean squat

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Post by JVz Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:25 pm

SelectiveRogue wrote:stats on forza mean squat


 Not completely. The lateral Gs value in the upgrade menu gives you the maximum g-force that can be sustained per wheel on the car given the configuration. It's used in computation in the game's engine, so it does give you a good comparison measure for a car's grip. On the other hand, PI is almost useless as a way to even out cars, but it gives a rough classing for various cars at least (particularly amongst the same drive types at least).
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Post by JVz Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:32 pm

I'm also guessing that the "Lola Mazda" means the B09/86? Because only Honda and Aston Martin have cars in this game called the "Lola". And in that regard, does it matter which year? They both have the same exact stats down to a T apparently.
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Post by CQR Rogue Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:41 pm

Does not matter which year 1 you choose.

Cars have been fully tested by a test team which involved the community cars were signed off by the group.

We cant mod this game.
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Post by JVz Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:53 pm

Alright, thanks for the info, guys. This will help me out in the racing series I'm helping run this summer that is somewhat similar to ISCC. We were using an older car build list from TORA (not sure from when), and I felt it was a bit unbalanced. I was happy to see it get updated so nicely here.
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Post by CQR Rogue Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:59 pm

so basically copying us? nice .........
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Post by Ax4x Kane Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:04 am

SelectiveRogue wrote:so basically copying us? nice .........

Let him. It'll never be as big as TORA.

Also JVz, its wise not to burn bridges. They may be able to block your IP address so you can't see anything.
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Post by JVz Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:19 pm

I'm not burning any bridges here. I was already part of a series that started a while ago, and I came here to join a larger league! Don't hate me! Sad
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Post by CQR Rogue Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:37 pm

JVz wrote:I'm not burning any bridges here. I was already part of a series that started a while ago, and I came here to join a larger league! Don't hate me! Sad


Not at all dude Smile welcome seen you posted up about a team, if you don't find 1 enter the series and if you need help just ask Smile

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Post by JVz Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:55 pm

Yeah I'm looking for an LMP team. I might be able to get a couple teammates to make my own, but after seeing how organised many of the teams are with more than just drivers doing all the work has made me think otherwise.

Speaking of that, wouldn't the Acura ARX-02a work with the same build settings as the Astins and Audi? Or is that still too powerful?
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Post by Texaspotatolord Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:18 am

The Acura is far better handling then the Astons and Audi's. Doesn't need more power.

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Post by Richy59 Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:42 am

Your one of the guys from Reddit yeah? Welcome to the TORA forums Smile

I saw some of your threads - posted in them as well - and had a look through the Reddit league. Looks like it will be pretty fun, and hope you guys get the TORA car builds working for you. Hopefully we get some of the credit though for the car builds, as we had a lot guys from our community put in a lot of time and effort to create the builds so I wouldn't like to think their efforts are having the credit taken away from them Smile
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Post by JVz Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:17 pm

Of course you'll be credited! I think the LMP builds we started with were similar to TORA, so that's why I thought we should look into what you guys had done to update them. We made the GS specs from scratch, and they're pretty neat, but also relatively new still. And I saw your post, too.
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Post by Ax4x Kane Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:29 pm

Sorry about the tone of my post mate. I read yours as "Haha I'm using your car builds...". No worries & Welcome Smile
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Post by JVz Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:37 pm

I may have also come across oddly, I see that now.
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Post by LZR Harmonic Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:18 pm

I had a minor concern with this class as well, but only on a particular track: Le Mans. The car hits 214, higher than some LMP1 cars, and I was able to come within the ballpark of LMP1 times with it (3:24.725). Should that be changed, or no?
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Post by JVz Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:40 pm

Which car?
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Post by CQR Rogue Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:52 pm

no as le mans is always a issue
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