TORA US American Iron Carlist and Build Rules

by **Ax4x Mikey J** Fri 8 May 2015 - 18:36

1985-2006 American RWD four seaters.

Weight: 2900-3200 Lbs

Power: 350-400 HP

Performance Index: 585PI

Mandatory: Race Tires/Brakes/Roll Cage and Reinforcement

Aero: Forza Aero "optional"

Car List:

Buick:
1987 Regal GNX

Cadillac:
2004 CTS-V

Chevrolet:
1990 Camaro IROC Z
2002 Camaro SS

Chrysler:
2006 Crossfire

Dodge:
1996 Stealth (converted to RWD)

Ford:
1993 Mustang
1995 Mustang
2005 Mustang GT

Pontiac:
1987 Trans Am GTA
2002 Trans Am
2006 GTO

by APX COLONEL Sat 9 May 2015 - 16:59

I like the concept of the iron series but a stealth..... along with lexus and no hemi line up makes for a no from me....I'm a Ford guy but dodge deserves more attention.

by **Ax4x Mikey J** Sat 9 May 2015 - 17:09

I'd either have to boost the HP or use power handicaps to fit Mopar in.

And I despise handicaps.

PS... its not my fault nor T10's that Mopar was focused on KCars in the 80s and 90s. Razz

by Xeyeov Tue 12 May 2015 - 0:54

Flyin Mikey J wrote:Buick:
1987 Regal GNX

Cadillac:
2004 CTS-V

Chevrolet:
1990 Camaro IROC Z
2002 Camaro SS

Chrysler:
2006 Crossfire

Dodge:
1996 Stealth (converted to RWD)

Ford:
~~1992~~ 1993 Mustang
~~1996~~ 1995 Mustang
2005 Mustang GT

~~Infinity:~~ Infiniti
2003 ~~Q35~~ G35 (Q series is for SUVs.)

Lexus:
~~1996~~ 1997 SC300
~~2006~~ 2003 IS350

Pontiac:
1987 Trans Am GTA
2002 Trans Am
2006 GTO

by **Ax4x Mikey J** Tue 12 May 2015 - 6:41

I stand corrected, but now its all sorted.

The Lexus is the 2006 IS350, not the 03 IS300.

by Spec Racer Z Wed 20 May 2015 - 13:01

Just one question I have, isn't the Crossfire a two seater in all of its models? All of the other cars seem to be either four seaters or four seaters with stripped rear seats (Cobra Rs) except for that one.

by **Ax4x Mikey J** Wed 20 May 2015 - 14:38

Spec Racer Z wrote:Just one question I have, isn't the Crossfire a two seater in all of its models? All of the other cars seem to be either four seaters or four seaters with stripped rear seats (Cobra Rs) except for that one.

True, for a good reason: very few Mopars fir the power/weight/PI rules, so I granted the Crossfire a waiver.

by Xeyeov Wed 20 May 2015 - 22:46

Spec Racer Z wrote:Just one question I have, isn't the Crossfire a two seater in all of its models? All of the other cars seem to be either four seaters or four seaters with stripped rear seats (Cobra Rs) except for that one.

In addition to the above, I'd like to point out that due to its lack of four seats, the Crossfire is altogether the shortest car available, affording it an advantage via a shorter wheelbase.

Flyin Mikey J wrote:True, for a good reason: very few Mopars fir the power/weight/PI rules, so I granted the Crossfire a waiver.

If I may proffer suitable replacements, I have found that the Dodge Neon and Shelby Omni meet all of the above requirements with a drivetrain conversion (same as the Stealth), and both seem more appropriate than the Crossfire given the conditions, as they're both four-seaters and more qualified to the competition guidelines, and, further, are Mopar products.

I've taken the liberty of going through the upgrade paths and have confirmed that they're capable of meeting the power, weight, and PI criteria.

by **Ax4x Mikey J** Thu 21 May 2015 - 2:05

As a longtime Neon owner, I have tried every possible build combination on that car in FM4, and no matter what, while it may "fit" the criteria, it is slow.

The Crossfire's short wheelbase may be an advantage, but the car's relative lack of torque offsets that.

by **Ax4x Mikey J** Mon 25 May 2015 - 16:23

NOTICE

I know this is very last minute, but since nobody has picked either Lexus nor either Infinity, and there have been some rather vocal complaints about their existence on the car list, they are being removed.

by Xeyeov Tue 26 May 2015 - 12:00

Flyin Mikey J wrote:NOTICE

I know this is very last minute, but since nobody has picked either Lexus nor either Infinity, and there have been some rather vocal complaints about their existence on the car list, they are being removed.

I was planning on using the SC but wanted to be sure of my car choice, so I was testing each configuration before prematurely announcing a choice. I apologize for this.

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