TORA TCC Catalunya National Lap Times

Well lads,

The tunes will need to be adjusted for this track, grip grip and more grip.

A good test of brakes and exit speeds.

Do you dare to be the last of the late brakers!.

Good luck and post your laptimes here.

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Although this is probably a grip track, I'm a bit worried by the length of that main straight, the wheezy old Kia's not gonna be good there...

i'll go first................. 1:24.8's - predicting the lowest lobby to run at the 1:23:9s and maybe 1:19s from the A lobby?

Well personally I absolutely hate, no detest, nooo despise, hmmmm no, can't even find a word harsh enough without swearing about this track, crappy little chicane before the finish straight that dirties two laps with one little 1 inch mistake.
Pants I tell ya.

Anyway 1:20:5s, Be lobby here I come.

foot note: Mark, the accura only picks up it's speed advantage at 92 mph, (how geeky am I) and my top speed before braking is 115 mph so grip tune it is then.

counted the tunes i have for the nissan ov doom and they totalled 26 that is after having a clear out just before maple where i deleted at least another 10, somewhere amongst them i have a tune that got me a low 1.22 around catalunya but at the moment after going through the the five most recent tunes the best i can do is a low 1.23, guess i'll have to test some of the other tunes (if i've got enough time to get through them before the race meeting lol)

Will try and run a few laps tonight see how good the Kia is around here - hoping for low to mid 20's!

1:23.3 is my best so far, but that is a car I am thinking of switching over to in NATCC. Have yet to take out my Alfa Quadrophenia Verde.

PLOW tubbi wrote:Anyway 1:20:5s

Best I've had so far is a 1:20.6, Kia seems slow around here

Mid 1.23's not sure what lobby pace that is though.....

^ Sounds like that lobby would be "mine"

Hi all,
i'd love to join you guys for the next Catalunya race, i'm new so I'm still figuring out how it works around here,
is there a team available to join for this and the rest of the events in the series?

Thanks,
btw, i love this track

Hi and welcome, grab an integra from my store front and have a go, post what times you do and I'm sure some one will offer you a drive maybe even me!

ok thanks, will do

Managing a few 1.22s I'm pretty happy with that. I think I could manage faster with less mistakes..Should be a good track.

well after a few laps with a new car on a new track layout, my time is 24.5.
I guess it wont be too hard to slim it down

Just outta interest what sort of speeds (MPH) are you guys getting the speed trap?

This track is way to funny
i still havent leant how to tackle the last 2 arsehole corners with this track but times are slimming down! so far i got in the 1:22s

anybody up for some laps?

Try taking it in 1st gear - as for some reason this won't dirty the lap - I've found taking the S's in a higher gear on the same line dirties my lap. You may need to tweak you gearing so that the corner can be taken in 1st and not bouncing on the limiter during corner exit - Using this method I've managed to knock off around half a sec on my PB

1.22.400 (clean). Going to have a go at tuning the suspension (first time ever - I normally leave it stock because I don't know what I'm doing!) - should find some more time if I get it right!!

As a rough guide, for FWD you need a relatively soft front roll bar (10-12) and a stiff rear roll bar (35-38) and softer front springs than rear springs (50 to 100lbs softer at the front depending on the car and how much oversteer you like).

Interesting! Thanks Mark, I'll give that a bash and let u know how I get on!

Once you get a good balance with the roll bars and springs, then start adjusting advanced things like toe and damping. With FWD (and especially the TORA TCC regs with no front aero), the tuning is all about killing the understeer. So a a little bit of front toe in (-0.1) helps the car turn in better (corner entry), stiffen the rear rebound and rear bump to help induce a bit of mid-corner oversteer, which helps pivot the car around the corner faster.

Using a combination of the above and a few ideas from tubbi, now down to a 22.1 with 21s definitely achieveable. The car also feels a lot better in general - can do these times consistantly now. Thanks both for the advice!

Sounds like you made some good progress there! Other things to try are running front tyre pressures lower than the rear (e.g. 28psi front, 29.5psi rear) and add some rake to the car by lowering the front ride height more than the rear.