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Post by Amarth Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 15:34

Hey..

You guys not arsed about balancing the cars? Or are you just being rude. I know staff has been in this thread several times today and failed to take me on.
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Post by Matt Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 16:50

Hey..
Many of us are at work and/or are only glancing at bits of the forums.
BoP for GT3 is essentially same as that used in the Winter Series. Across the series I'm happy we will see different strengths from the cars included.


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Post by Amarth Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 17:11

Ahh I see, so you can update sign ups etc.. but it's too much to acknowledge my comment....nvm, not the first time I've been ignored here.

Anyway...so what if the builds are from a test series, doesn't make them balanced. To be honest the majority of cars are fine and should be a good series, but the porsche definitely needs looking at.
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Post by LZR ForceOne Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 17:21

CAR Amarth wrote:I would just like to point out that the Porsche 911 is a bit ridiculous, i don't see how it can be balanced for the ASCC at pi857 and ok for this series at pi864. Also didn't you find it to be overpowered before Daytona with a similar or worse build and had to change it.
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Post by ESV Moshys Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 18:02

CAR Amarth wrote: Anyway...so what if the builds are from a test series, doesn't make them balanced. To be honest the majority of cars are fine and should be a good series, but the porsche definitely needs looking at.

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Post by LZR Harmonic Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 19:14

There's a problem with that suggestion...

If you nerf the Porsche, the Huracan needs a nerf. If you nerf the Huracan, the McLaren needs a nerf. If you nerf the McLaren, the SLS needs a nerf... Once everything gets nerfed, something is still faster than the rest, and at that point it's out of anyone's control due to limitations presented by the game.

We wouldn't be in that situation if a certain someone didn't use the exact builds from Silverstone 2016 without Dev Team approving it, but as I have said too many times on these forums, I digress...

If it is absolutely IMPERATIVE that the Porsche needs to be changed, then take off the rear tire width only. The car is useless without the front width, and we don't need to alienate more cars.
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Post by SGR RennBear Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 21:36

I've built and double checked the build on the lotus evora and the PI comes to 739. I was wondering if anyone could check to seem if I've missed something in my checks or if the build sheet was wrong. Thanks

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Post by Jan Filip S Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 22:27

ablueN1njaBear wrote:I've built and double checked the build on the lotus evora and the PI comes to 739. I was wondering if anyone could check to seem if I've missed something in my checks or if the build sheet was wrong. Thanks

If you add driveline it matches 740. No one confirmed that is the way to do it though :/


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Post by Diablo 29x Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 23:20

Evora build fixed to include the driveline to achieve 740 PI


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Post by SGR RennBear Mon 27 Mar 2017 - 23:49

Quick correction to the updated build. The evora driveline now says race but it should be sport (matches the weight listed and PI). The race driveline makes it 741.

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Post by Amarth Tue 28 Mar 2017 - 17:10

A few people are in agreement about the porsche, you have good feedback from the community, are you going to do something? Before its too late.
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Post by GTR Ne Tue 28 Mar 2017 - 22:29

CAR Amarth wrote:A few people are in agreement about the porsche, you have good feedback from the community, are you going to do something? Before its too late.

absolutely, admins let get this porshe builld changed

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Post by Veloce Virus Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 14:52

I don't know why the Porsche should be the only car need to be changed... as Harmonic said the Huracan, McLaren and the SLS are easily on the same pace. And there will be tracks like Spa where the Porsche isn't good at all but other cars will be way better... So i don't think they need to be changed.. some of the other cars rather need an buff... but anyways you can never have a complete fair BoP with the current opportunities. unsure
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Post by TFz Kami Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 15:19

I don't get I either. The porsche going about the same times as merc, mclaren and huracan in VIR. It will he bad at spa and last year TEC silverstone was harmonic in the huracan . 7 faster then nvirus in the porsche with the the exact same build....
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Post by Amarth Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 15:41

Have you guys even tested the porsche around spa? Lol. Harmonic tested the porsche at spa and posted one of the quickest times ive seen on there in a GT car on his 2nd flyer.
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Post by Veloce Virus Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 15:45

Not intense...you might be right there but it doesn't change anything on what I wrote above about the other cars.. lol
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Post by Diablo 29x Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 15:51

You can't compare what you can do in a car to a different driver did in another car unless they are the same pace.


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Post by LZR Harmonic Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 15:53

Don't misunderstand what I said about the other cars. When I brought up the endless nerfing problem, that doesn't mean those cars are equal. I ordered them in sequence of what I found to be the quickest, but nerfing one of them will make the next car on the list a source of complaint, and so on...

Like I said, if the Porsche does deserve a nerf, take off the rear width only. It's useless without the front.

Also, I don't get why no one is looking at the Ferrari... It's blazing quick and awesome to drive.
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Post by Veloce Virus Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 16:06

Sure they are not 100% equal but they are close together... but I won't say anything about it anymore I will just take it as it is...
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Post by LZR Harmonic Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 16:22

The frustrating thing here is that my 2016 Silverstone builds were copied for this series, and they weren't optimized for an entire calendar. I have one more suggestion that could potentially fix things somewhat: give the Viper its brakes back. It'll be quick at Silverstone, sure, but it needs them at other tracks. It's pretty subpar overall as it is.
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Post by LZR ForceOne Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 16:42

Virus what time have you done at VIR in that Porsche?

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Post by Matt Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 16:55

The BoP is fixed for VIR.
Once we have additional data TORA reserves the right to address BoP as approapriate.

Harmonic - rather than unsubtley slagging me off in public please feel free to either PM me or discuss this in the Dev Team section. If you don't still have access to that then by all means request it.

Thanks for the feedback all and I hope you all enjoy VIR


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Post by LZR Harmonic Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 17:14

Matt wrote:The BoP is fixed for VIR.
Once we have additional data TORA reserves the right to address BoP as approapriate.

Harmonic -  rather than unsubtley slagging me off in public please feel free to either PM me or discuss this in the Dev Team section. If you don't still have access to that then by all means request it.

Thanks for the feedback all and I hope you all enjoy VIR

The only reason I'd want access to that section again is to quote you saying you'll take the Silverstone builds for BGT without letting anyone respond, and then people can see where this problem started.

Nice to finally have you talk to me directly after doing things for your site for over 3 years!
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Post by Veloce Virus Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 19:07

F4H ForceOne wrote:Virus what time have you done at VIR in that Porsche?
45.6 atm
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Post by LZR ForceOne Wed 29 Mar 2017 - 23:45

NVirus999 wrote:
F4H ForceOne wrote:Virus what time have you done at VIR in that Porsche?
45.6 atm
Damn lmao

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