TORA Britcar 24 Hours of Silverstone - General Discussion

Drake Hellspawn wrote:

F4H Bullet wrote:Happy to see we brought home the win. I had a good battle with CQR Daniel, damn that dude is fast. Had some good battles in traffic and also had a great battle with Haburi my first stint. Really had fun this race and look forward to the next race. If I hadn't lagged out in the Sebring 12 Hours, I'd be 4 for 4 in endurance races Ive entered this year.

I really do like the pit stop, as someone has already stated, it really gives you a chance to let you strecth a bit and shake your hands if they begin to cramp up.

Regardless, congrats to TORA on another great event, and I do believe all the cars where equally paced. Look at the gap between the top 4 in TGT in three different cars between 4 different car clubs. No disrepect, but that really show you just need to put the work, practice, and tuning into a car to get it to go fast.

We only finished in 4th by 0.3s

The results show you guys finished 3rd? Or did I read that wrong?

My original post I meant by qualifying, but I had posted while at work on my lunch break. After getting home and reading everything, I noticed you ran a 51.9 in qualifying. Top 4 cars in qualifying seperated by 4 tenths and all in different cars...and people say the cars are not equal in the TORA GT series.

It was a great race, shame the CQR guys had Magictap's wheel troulbe, and BG lagged out. Was shaping up to be an epic battle.

looks like I missed a great race, should get my new router in the post today as he didnt have any on the van

Im sure the staff may discuss it behind closed doors but cant see it changing as it wouldnt run as smooth.

lfcnicklfc wrote:

BloodYCaiN wrote:My third stint distance is WRONG! All honesty...this is the 4th time the wrong distance and/or time has been entered wrong for me. I realize mistakes happen but Damn...starting to feel like someones out to get me.

My final distance was 174. Not 173.

If someone's gave you an extra mile i wouldn't say that someone is out to get you

Possibly the stint we were all shouting stop to you once counter hit 15:00 and you carried on lol.

CQR Aero wrote:

hahahaha

CQR Aero wrote:

F4H bandicoot wrote:

Midgetexpress wrote:Continuity

Irrelevant when the person hosting is actually changing, there's no continuity there. The staff member can still do all the sorting the lobby out, telling everywhere where they should go etc.

Relevant if you have to keep checking that people have the lobby set up right, starting, finding it's set on something wrong, restarting etc. Look at the dealys we suffer in GT/ISCC when none of the "usual" hosts qualify for a particular lobby and we have to draft someone new and get them kitted out with lobby settings etc and brief them on what info we need recording etc.

A post including ALL the room settings would help a lot. Like VM does. Everyone knows the room setting because of that.

i think to aid consistency and speed up recording results it was a good idea to keep the amount of hosts to a minimum

i think its sad that people need to complain about such a well run event and i think the decision to use hosts with experience of doing so was the key here

i've run many online lobbies and still had problems getting drivers together in a timely manner either because they hadn't joined the requested msa tora tec, or were appearing offline!


from my experience a lot of issues seem to extend from trans-altantic mixed lobbies, this is a forza problem, nothing to do with tora, and the only solution would be to group drivers by worldwide region

AndyT306 wrote:i think the decision to use hosts with experience of doing so was the key here

That's the thing. Lots of drivers have lots of experience with hosting lobbies, at TORA or at other online racing sites.

F4H Koenigsegg wrote:

AndyT306 wrote:i think the decision to use hosts with experience of doing so was the key here

That's the thing. Lots of drivers have lots of experience with hosting lobbies, at TORA or at other online racing sites.

if you are agreeing with me i don't understand the problem

It dont matter whats done is done , lets all have a big group hug and move along

Have a rotation of hosts. That way no one can say the hosts have an advantage because they wont lag out of a lobby. Many people here can host, you don't need a degree to host an online lobby.

F4H Diablo wrote:Have a rotation of hosts. That way no one can say the hosts have an advantage because they wont lag out of a lobby. Many people here can host, you don't need a degree to host an online lobby.

i was constantly lagging out of lobbies i was hosting last week, so it's not a certainty that being a host guarantees connection - i was actually very close to completely withdrawing from britcar because of it

before this event i made sure all my router firmwear was upto date, ran a full reset on my router and fibre modems, cleared the cache on my xbox and tested my connection to XBL and via speedtest on 2 other devices

the only lag out i had in my lobbies was general, and he is laggy everytime i race with him, doesn't matter who is hosting


perhaps if everyone took the tora staff advice on making sure their connections were 100% then the chances of problems would be a lot less, and i'll be honest it does seem to be the same people experiencing issues

and if someone has got a dodgy connection, how is that anyone elses fault?

Its a much lower probability. Posting hosts speedtests would be insightful

i'll agree it's less likely, but if someone with a dodgy connection hosts and more people lag out, that doesn't make sense

F4H Diablo wrote:Its a much lower probability.

Just out of curiosity Diablo - would you have any information that backs up this claim as it's not something I've heard before?!?

F4H Diablo wrote:...you don't need a degree to host an online lobby.

So...those classes I took were for nothing?! wtf...I better get my hosting degree.

I'm surprised this is even coming up. Splitting hairs here people. I personally could care less who hosts the rooms as long as they have a tested, perfect connection and everyone can join. What should be happening is every single person in the room needs to turn their fricken wireless router off and direct connect to their modem. That will solve 99% of the problems. Solved mine.

AndyT306 wrote:i'll agree it's less likely, but if someone with a dodgy connection hosts and more people lag out, that doesn't make sense

I'm on my wireless laptop and downloading a movie when I pulled this.

Would you Adam and Eve it, after over two years with no lag-outs I got one the day before the event and then last night my connection died (kept coming back on for 5 mins then dqing again). Looks like its fixed now but talk about close shave.

Anyhoo, well done to F4H for the win in TGT, your pace was immense throughout and to HR Turner Motorsport #9 for the PGT and CQR Ignominy for the Clubmans. Some excellent driving standards from all competitors from what I saw.

PpR YT RICE wrote:

AndyT306 wrote:i'll agree it's less likely, but if someone with a dodgy connection hosts and more people lag out, that doesn't make sense

I'm on my wireless laptop and downloading a movie when I pulled this.

i'm sure this has been discussed a lot in the past, but you don't need a lot of bandwidth for online gaming, it wouldn't work otherwise

ping is more important, as this is your response time, if someone has a high ping, their data communication with be delayed, creating lag

Don't ruin the willy waving Andy - in 'Mens World' bigger is always better

CQR Jono wrote:Don't ruin the willy waving Andy - in 'Mens World' bigger is always better

oh i know Jono, i'm going to upgrade to a 75mb line just for giggles

BG Hainesy wrote:Anyhoo, well done to F4H for the win in TGT, your pace was immense throughout and to HR Turner Motorsport #9 for the PGT and CQR Ignominy for the Clubmans. Some excellent driving standards from all competitors from what I saw.

+1

PpR YT RICE wrote:

AndyT306 wrote:i'll agree it's less likely, but if someone with a dodgy connection hosts and more people lag out, that doesn't make sense

I'm on my wireless laptop and downloading a movie when I pulled this.

That's Fast. Mine's slower than both of those.

Just done a quick search on this and Ookla did some research recently looking at internet quality around the world with regards to online gaming.

They commented:-

"For online gamers, an internet connection with consistently low latency and minimal data packet loss is paramount.

Many games can operate well over a low bandwidth connection, but if the pings are high and packets are lost in the ether, the quality of the game is impacted terribly."

They then ranked the following countries on the standard of their overall internet quality - there are some surprises! They took all ISP's in each country and came up with an average rating per country - this is relating to quality rather than the usual headline figures of download and upload:-


South Korea – 88.88
Romania – 88.81
Hong Kong – 88.07
Latvia – 88.00
Belarus – 87.92
United Kingdom – 87.80
Ukraine – 87.75
Russia – 87.60
Sweden – 87.32
Lithuania – 87.10
Belgium – 86.88
Vietnam – 86.85
Slovenia – 86.64
Argentina – 86.20
Denmark – 86.19
Norway – 86.03
Bulgaria – 85.99
Macedonia – 85.82
France – 85.76
Bosnia and Herzegovina – 85.73
Azerbaijan – 85.59
Czech Republic – 85.57
Poland – 85.23
Italy – 85.19
Ireland – 84.62
Spain – 84.61
Switzerland – 84.35
Austria – 84.31
Singapore – 84.10
Costa Rica – 84.07
Tunisia – 84.05
Slovakia – 83.95
United States – 83.93
Puerto Rico – 83.89
Netherlands – 83.89
New Zealand – 83.76
Malaysia – 83.08
Chile – 82.36
Australia – 82.33
Canada – 81.84
Serbia – 81.45
Brazil – 80.98
Estonia – 80.92
Hungary – 80.89
Croatia – 80.69
Israel – 80.00
South Africa – 79.00
Germany – 78.80
Kuwait – 78.33
Cyprus – 78.21
Algeria – 77.79
Finland – 77.35
United Arab Emirates – 76.79
Indonesia 76.52
Philippines 75.31
Turkey – 74.89
Egypt – 73.44
Jordan – 73.03
Greece – 70.46
Montenegro – 70.30
Kenya – 70.13
China – 63.70
Iraq – 63.46
Lebanon – 48.89

For once being British has an advantage