MSA TORA Touring Car Championship - Round 19, 20 & 21 - Motegi East – May 28th 8PM BST

Kilroy8 wrote:

MGR Schuey wrote:

Flyin Mikey J wrote:Sorry for the lag in the last part of race 3. If not for that I could have tried to defend position a bit better so it screwed me in the end (bad pun unintended)

I like it, let everyone know you were lagging and then you can get away with deliberately taking me out on the last corner in race 3 when the stewards look at it perfect excuse

Really Schuey? That's a serious accusation. Ill bet my house Mikey wouldn't have wrecked you intentionally

I've done a quick video. I was 50 ft ahead of the incident, and couldn't work out if it was lag, or an 'incident'.
No video capture, so my camera phone, on my TV, with my bad video skillz.



IT's worth saying, I'm impartial, I know neither Mike nor Schuey.
Mike was lagging in spots, flying in others, but this seemed intermittent to be totally fair.

Looks like lag to me needs some whack to hit a FWD car like that off in that way. There is a slight jump forward earlier aswell.

looks like lag from both... will be different on every replay

Sorry, this has been raised as an SI, can this stopped being talked about in public and let the stewards deal with this.

Thank you

No worries Chucky, think you need a few replays of that one lol

hats off to bandit for keeping the peace

yes and enough said now please as we are now dealing with it
thank you

would like to no who had the tap up my backside in race 3 im not blaming anyone or saying it was anyones fault but i didnt save the reply and i would like to no what happend thanks peeps

dothack1845 wrote:would like to no who had the tap up my backside in race 3 im not blaming anyone or saying it was anyones fault but i didnt save the reply and i would like to no what happend thanks peeps

hands up... i did say to blame me at the time, sorry fella

tis alright mate just glad i ended up on the dirt and not on the track could of been nasty for the other guys if i was on tarmac

SelectiveRogue wrote:Great Racing

was one of the best nights I have had racing in TORA for a longtime. Great racing last night with you, Aero, and Wumba,,neck and neck all the way

I just feel sorry for Aero, as bloody hell did he have some pressure to put up with last night,,lol. Very nice clean defensive driving though,,bravo!!

G

XPR Karma wrote:

SelectiveRogue wrote:Great Racing

was one of the best nights I have had racing in TORA for a longtime. Great racing last night with you, Aero, and Wumba,,neck and neck all the way

I just feel sorry for Aero, as bloody hell did he have some pressure to put up with last night,,lol. Very nice clean defensive driving though,,bravo!!

G

+1

That B lobby is what I can on here to do, I enjoyed last night, felt a bit sorry for Donkey in the third, because the racing was so close, 1 incident led to loosing about 4 or 5 places, as I found out my self on lap 5 or 6.

Good fun in A Lobby last night.
I think I lose a bit too much time at the start by wanting to keep it clean rather than taking the 'rubbin's racing' approach but other than that I was pretty pleased with the night considering I did 2 laps on the track right before qually and a quick change of the gearing.

Anyway, here's an epic battle I had with CQR Magic in Race 2:



It starts from about lap 6 when CQR Hungover misses a gear to when CQR Magic gets a bit optimistic with the brakes on the last lap.

I'm sorry but with the incident between Mikey and Schuey surely if that was actually lag the whole car would have jolted to the left...????

It doesn't take much to punt a FWD off, a reasonable tap to the Front end does the trick, as shown in the video which also clearly shows the steering angle, which was driver input not lag

Davey UK wrote:I'm sorry but with the incident between Mikey and Schuey surely if that was actually lag the whole car would have jolted to the left...????

It doesn't take much to punt a FWD off, a reasonable tap to the Front end does the trick, as shown in the video which also clearly shows the steering angle, which was driver input not lag

I truly had no idea he was there, as my "look left" had him behind me at that point, so all I was doing was trying to get closer to a proper turn in radius as not to be a hazard at the apex.

Flyin Mikey J wrote:

Davey UK wrote:I'm sorry but with the incident between Mikey and Schuey surely if that was actually lag the whole car would have jolted to the left...????

It doesn't take much to punt a FWD off, a reasonable tap to the Front end does the trick, as shown in the video which also clearly shows the steering angle, which was driver input not lag

I truly had no idea he was there, as my "look left" had him behind me at that point, so all I was doing was trying to get closer to a proper turn in radius as not to be a hazard at the apex.

You were going to be a hazard anyway by the look of it, moving over 5ft wouldn't have helped your turning circle anyway. Plus, a good look around your car would have indicated where he was, but all throughout that video he's alongside you so the look left would have given you a face full of Civic....

Kilroy8 wrote:Really Schuey? That's a serious accusation. Ill bet my house Mikey wouldn't have wrecked you intentionally

When can I come and get the keys mate, video shows the steering input to hit Schuey, that wasn't lag chap....

GUYS! its not be be talked about! Its a SI.

thread now unlocked as SI been investigated I will lock it if any more SI talk in a race day thread, please back on track great meeting

BG Cowboy wrote:Good fun in A Lobby last night.
I think I lose a bit too much time at the start by wanting to keep it clean rather than taking the 'rubbin's racing' approach but other than that I was pretty pleased with the night considering I did 2 laps on the track right before qually and a quick change of the gearing.

Anyway, here's an epic battle I had with CQR Magic in Race 2:



It starts from about lap 6 when CQR Hungover misses a gear to when CQR Magic gets a bit optimistic with the brakes on the last lap.

That was a brilliant battle Cowboy, was great to be able to race wheel-to-wheel for so many laps. I had the exact same battle in race 1 with Amarth and then Tubbi in race 3, great racing from everyone in the A lobby this race

BG Wingnut396 wrote:
Stewards Decision - TORA TCC | Mgr schuey | flyin mikey j

Incident involving driver #619 Mgr schuey and #14 flyin mikey j

Following investigation by the stewards, the following decision concerning the incident between driver Mgr schuey and flyin mikey j has been made.

It is the decision of the stewards that the incident involving flyin mikey j is no action due to lag and that Mgr schuey is to take a 3 meeting warning and a 4 place grid drop for an aggressive overtake outside track limits and for knowing that someone is lagging didnt give enough space

You have the option to appeal within 4 days of this decision




BIGGEST [Censored] PISSTAKE.........


The decision that has been made about the incident show clear bias for one of your own club members and is the biggest joke decision I have seen, anyone looking at the replay that has been posted can clearly see his steering input and if he lagged the whole car woupd have move left simultaneously not steer left.



Its a pisstake how I get a penalty when I get hit by some one else, I would love whatever drugs the stewards were on wehn they made this decision, I have said it once and I will say it again, this is clearly a biased decision in favour of a tora club member who has constant lag issues and is known thought forza as a poor racer.

Put in an appeal and the decision goes to two members of the community at large who are generally not involved in the series it is applied for. The Staff can have input in this and - believe it or not - we don't have any say or look at any of the SIs that are put in so are generally unbiased as well.

Richy59 wrote:Put in an appeal and the decision goes to two members of the community at large who are generally not involved in the series it is applied for. The Staff can have input in this and - believe it or not - we don't have any say or look at any of the SIs that are put in so are generally unbiased as well.

I HAVE PUT AN APPEAL IN, BUT BECAUSE MIKEY IS ONE OF "TORA'S" OWN CLUB MEMBERS WITH KNOWN LAG ISSUES AND POOR RACECRAFT HE CONSTANTLY GETS AWAY WITH IT, THIS ISNT HAVE A GO AT THE ORGANISERS OF THE SERIES BUT AT THE STEWARDS WHO MAUST HAVE TAKEN MORE DRUGS THAN ALL MEMBERS OF THE ROLLING STONES COMBINED WHEN THEY MADE THIS DECISION

ok dry your eyes ,its getting looked into.