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Post by STR stug77 Thu 3 Nov 2016 - 18:07

Make yourself a brew and get a comfy seat it's a long one lol

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Mon 21 Nov 2016 - 20:50

Back to the original post...

F4H ForceOne wrote:

To be honest, we all put a TON of effort into these series. We practice, paint and tune for hours. Many people including me put a lot of work into promoting these races on Twitter and other social media outlets, hoping to grow sim racing and make it enjoyable.

The way we're treated in response is nothing short of disrespectful. It seems like every series takes more time to get through in a night than the one before, and there's no end in sight. You have persistent doc issues and constant delays. And the staff seems to put in no effort compared to what the competitors dedicate to the same series. 

I signed up for a British GT race at 3:00 est, and had plans at 6. While you guys can't help a clock change, there's no way an 8 minute qualifying session and two 20 lap races should take more than 2 hours. What we witnessed was an hour and a half timeframe before you even SENT AN INVITE! I'm sorry guys, but this isn't the first race you've run. The excuses and finger pointing won't get it fixed. You need to once and for all sort it out. 

What I'm saying is probably not what you hear, and it isn't what I want to be saying (especially when I put over 15 hours into practicing tuning and painting for a series that I'm no longer racing...). But to be honest, I am insulted. My time is valuable. I have other things to do. Sim racing should be a hobby, not a full time job. Nobody should have to wait as long as we did tonight for a 50 entry race. 

Until you guys can start to respect your drivers, I'm likely no longer participating in your series

Now something you would not expect to hear from Staff...

He is right. We NEED to do better. That has to be our main focus, as most everyone that has ever raced here but no longer does, has said much the same thing when asked "Why don't you come race with us anymore?

I try to steer things in the right direction within staff meetings, but it all seems to get lost in talks of how to expand, what series and sponsors do we want to pursue, what sponsors we have attracted,etc.

I have become so jaded due to the persistent frustration that I am likely leaving after the current season of Touring Masters concludes.

I race for fun, not for prizes, glitz and glamour. That is what TORA was based on when I got here, but now days, most of the fun seems past tense.
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Post by some evil dude Fri 6 Jan 2017 - 16:59

I couldn't find a good place to find for this, but I've got a bone to pick with T10. It's really important to me so I thought I'd get everyone involved if possible.
I participated in last night's race of American Iron and must say everyone did a spectacular job for a clean, competitive race. Haven't really seen a race with no incident before so hats off to everyone there. I am however, really upset that I started pole and ended up dead last with no real mistakes. I beat qualifying time nearly every lap, which was also better than my usual practice time. So in other words, every single person was able to beat their personal best by at least 1 sec or more. And it was done withing the first 5 laps!
. I've always suspected something strange on T10's servers and it usually shows when your car doesn't seem to handle quite right, but this time I've got it on stream. I don't know how it works, no one else has ever confirmed my doubts, but now you can view the streams with my name as: some_evil_dude. I'm not asking everyone to watch the entire streams, just go near the end to see the times and understand I drove very consistently throughout. Thank you
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Post by LZR Harmonic Fri 6 Jan 2017 - 17:46

Some Evil Dude wrote:I couldn't find a good place to find for this, but I've got a bone to pick with T10. It's really important to me so I thought I'd get everyone involved if possible.
I participated in last night's race of American Iron and must say everyone did a spectacular job for a clean, competitive race. Haven't really seen a race with no incident before so hats off to everyone there. I am however, really upset that I started pole and ended up dead last with no real mistakes. I beat qualifying time nearly every lap, which was also better than my usual practice time. So in other words, every single person was able to beat their personal best by at least 1 sec or more. And it was done withing the first 5 laps!
.      I've always suspected something strange on T10's servers and it usually shows when your car doesn't seem to handle quite right, but this time I've got it on stream. I don't know how it works, no one else has ever confirmed my doubts, but now you can view the streams with my name as: some_evil_dude. I'm not asking everyone to watch the entire streams, just go near the end to see the times and understand I drove very consistently throughout. Thank you

This belongs in the American Iron section, but I'll explain...

In American Iron, if you start on pole, that actually means you got the SLOWEST time in your lobby. This series uses a reverse grid system so the faster qualifiers can't just run away with the race but are also rewarded with passing points if they make their way back through the field. That also helps reduce the urge to sandbag to start higher up on the grid; slower qualifying time -> higher starting position -> less passing points. Since there were 16 people in A lobby and you started on pole, you actually qualified 16th. The people who started behind you actually qualified with faster times than you.
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Post by some evil dude Fri 6 Jan 2017 - 23:48

I didn't realize that was A-lobby so um...thanks for clearing that up. I'm still butt hurt since the margin was so huge by the entire field inspite of my new lap times.
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