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Post by HCR Motorhead Mon 16 Apr 2018 - 8:24

Update: I am writing in big text so there's no excuse.

Under no circumstances should you crash into anyone after you finish. Please vacate the track and park safely so the race can finish and the results can be taken efficiently. Only after the results are taken is the race declared over.

We will take strong action on those that ignore this.

The rest is straightforward; the start and finish is strictly controlled and enforced, other than that just play nicely.


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Post by Digeztive Mon 16 Apr 2018 - 10:47

just a quick question regarding the start, when the leader says "go" are we all allowed to race from that point or once we cross the line do we start racing?

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Post by SorrySmithy Mon 16 Apr 2018 - 11:09

R0BERTCOP wrote:just a quick question regarding the start, when the leader says "go" are we all allowed to race from that point or once we cross the line do we start racing?

You start racing once your car row crosses the start/finish line, no one needs to say "go" or anything like that.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Mon 16 Apr 2018 - 23:25

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 339
Drivers Involved: HCR Mad Bull
Series: British GT
Round: 1 / VIR
Race: 2
Lobby: 4
Lap: Results Collection

Evidence: http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/hcr-mad-bull/video/47877383

Description by Darkzer24: HCR Mad Bull makes no attempt to form up properly after the race, instead spinning sideways and flipping OVER HCR Faithless and LMR Visceral.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision:

HCR Mad Bull: 9.625/10 - a side spin that leads to a 3.5 roll; no pike, launched excellently but the landing was not quite perfect.

Lol jk, warning.


//Steward's note: The case mentioned before came from ASCC which has similar procedures. Although the defendant in that streamed his own rampage so the context was not the same as this.

We have to strongly remind entrants that the race is not over until the results are collected. Especially as when GT3s park, the GT4s still have another lap to do. As it is a very packed and high profile series, we cannot afford delays or errors stemming from this. It garnered a few laughs but we have to reinforce that the start and end are strictly controlled.

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Post by HCR Motorhead Mon 16 Apr 2018 - 23:30

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 337
Drivers Involved: JSR Craviator, FTR Vettel, FTR LEGENDZ
Series: British GT
Round: 1 / VIR
Race: 1
Lobby: A
Lap: 19 / Post-Race

Evidence: http://xboxclips.com/FTR+Adzhas/7a9581c3-4f79-405a-bbaf-d7064ff5f31f

Description by Darkzer24: *note: I was compiling clips from the race because I always do that, and decided to actually watch this one. Did not know of incident prior to viewing.*

This honestly blows my mind. After the race, drivers in all lobbies were instructed to stop in order for results collection. As can be seen, JSR Craviator throw the e-brake on and smashes the hell out of FTR Vettel and FTR LEGENDZ moments after completing his race. I recall last season in ASCC a driver performed a similarly stupid move and was heavily penalized for it, hence the submission.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision:

JSR Craviator: Missed conversion. It was a valiant effort but just sliced wide of the posts.

Yeah nah, warning.

//Steward's note: The case mentioned before came from ASCC which has similar procedures. Although the defendant in that streamed his own rampage so the context was not the same as this.

We have to strongly remind entrants that the race is not over until the results are collected. Especially as when GT3s park, the GT4s still have another lap to do. As it is a very packed and high profile series, we cannot afford delays or errors stemming from this. It garnered a few laughs but we have to reinforce that the start and end are strictly controlled.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Mon 16 Apr 2018 - 23:41

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 334
Drivers Involved: EVR Bolton
Series: BGT
Round: 1/VIR
Race: first race
Lobby: Lobby 4
Lap: 8

Evidence: https://clips.twitch.tv/EasyIncredulousGuanacoBabyRage

Description by LazyDandy: Was driving ahead EVR Bolton and he punted me in the back, overtook me and drove off.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision:

EVR Bolton: -1 Position Penalty

The stewards agreed that it constituted as an illegal overtake, initiating contact to profit, albeit very minor.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Tue 17 Apr 2018 - 0:08

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 336
Drivers Involved: LMR Viscerel
Series: British gt
Round: Round 1
Race: Race 1
Lobby: Lobby 4
Lap: Racing lap 1

Evidence: Game clip. https://account.xbox.com/en-GB/Profile?xr=mebarnav

http://xboxclips.com/VPR+Torque/d14a8b85-b8bd-441c-bd29-a504fa265b14
http://xboxclips.com/VPR+Torque/d24631cc-c623-40ee-8672-cee4aab526d0


Description by VPR Torque : I tapped viscerel at the end of the back straight under braking so I backed of to make sure I took no advantage even got tapped by my own team mate in the process in the next set of corners he slowed right down so I attempted a pass around the outside at which point he decided to turn into me sending me off track and then did it again which put me out of control on the grass and putting me in last place

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision: Racing incident.

The stewards could not find the defendant or any party culpable, it was an unfortunate coming together. They agreed it was an ambitious attempt at an overtake.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Tue 17 Apr 2018 - 0:10

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 338
Drivers Involved: DOR Superstang, VPR Brock, Jenson09 and VPR AnonCaliga
Series: Bgt
Round: Round 1 VIR
Race: Race 2
Lobby: Lobby 8
Lap: Lap 3

Evidence: Replay saved

Description by VPR Brock: Driver: DOR Superstang
Incident: Unsafe return to track
Lap: 3
Drivers Involved: DOR superstang, VPR Brock, Jenson09 and VPR AnonCaliga.
Description of incident:
DOR Superstang was weaving in the corners for both races and I understand one blocking move is allowed per lap but this was consistent weaving that others also commented on during both races and in this case i had to brake hard and avoid him which caused me to steer into the path of jenson09 and VPR AnonCaliga nearly wiping them both out where I hit tyre wall losing many places during race.
The replay has been shared if needed with description “Race 2 TORA BGT Lobby 8”

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident

The stewards agreed no one was at fault for this incident.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Wed 18 Apr 2018 - 18:47

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 342
Drivers Involved: gman555
Series: British GT
Round: 1 / VIR
Race: 2
Lobby: 9
Lap: start

Evidence: http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/gman555/video/47978556

Description by Darkzer24: gman555 appears to have recorded his own jump start. Is going 84 over the line. This may be due to a sunset skybox, will attempt to replicate.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision:

Gman555: -2 Position Penalty.

It was a clearly defined jump start.

It also transpired that erroneous start controls were given. Please consult the rules to avoid this happening again.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Sun 22 Apr 2018 - 23:45

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 345
Drivers Involved: Driftshotz RTG and me (Freheliaz)
Series: British GT 2018
Round: Round 1 VIR
Race: Race 2
Lobby: Lobby 9 (my hosted lobby)
Lap: 4,5,6 didn't really count

Evidence: Yes race replay is shared (search for BGT), gameclips on my Xbox feed and Screenshots.
Crash:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630474
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630483
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630484
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630491
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630492
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/video/47981937
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/video/47982111

Track limits:
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630509
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630512
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/screenshot/8630513
http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/freheliaz/video/47981584 (at the final 10 seconds)


Description by Freheliaz: Driftshotz was behind me and tried to overtake me. He crashed into me then overtook me. I lost control of the car when it started sliding badly and almost spun around. If he didn't have hit me he never would have made the corner. After that he said sorry and just buggered off. I never recovered from that collision and couldn't retake that place. He could have waited for me to re-enter the track and then continue the race. As you can see the moment I re-enter the track he was into the next corner already.
Also he did not respect track limits. I saw him cutting the same corner at the start of the esses many times. The right hander before you start the esses section in the beginning.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision:

Driftshotz RTG: -2 Position Penalty

The stewards agreed it was a minor incident, contact resulting in position gained, which warrants a minor penalty.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Sun 22 Apr 2018 - 23:53

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 341
Drivers Involved: time2diezombie2, SIXTY6 AJAX, ProvokedLeaf347
Series: British GT
Round: 1 / VIR
Race: 1
Lobby: 5
Lap: 4

Evidence: time2 POV: http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/time2diezombie2/video/47951453
AJAX clip: was told it's on its way

Description by Darkzer24: Before watching clip, skip to 15 seconds, where time2 is off the ground, and 3 other cars are in POV. This is important.

time2 was driving slowly / sliding, and made a mistake into the snake. Ajax booped him at just the wrong angle, and destroyed time2, who was then stuck on the barrier.

Provoked is included in this due to allegations of him causing Ajax to be unable to avoid the incident, hence the 2nd clip mentioned which is ""on its way"".

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident.

It is unfortunate that it was a race ending incident although Ajax's contact was minor and the incident is primarily accentuated by Forza's impractical tyre barriers.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Sun 22 Apr 2018 - 23:56

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 344
Drivers Involved: HCR Cerberus, burnoutforzaX & AMS Axel R
Series: British GT eSports Championship 2018
Round: Round 1
Race: Race 2
Lobby: Lobby 2/B
Lap: Lap 15 (Racing Lap 14)

Evidence: https://clips.twitch.tv/StrongKindMooseItsBoshyTime

Description by burnoutforzaX: HCR Cerberus runs wide on turn 9 due to an unforced error on his part. In an attempt to avoid the ""turn 10 barrier"" he tries to rejoin on the apex of turn 10. Causing me to take avoiding action on the outside grass of turn 10. AMS Axel R manages to just slightly avoid him on the inside. This causes me to lose the position to AMS Axel R and a solid 200ft by the time I got to the left-hander at the end of the back straight. If I were in HCR Cerberus's shoes I would have attempted to reduce all possible damage by hitting the wall side on and tried to rejoin the race when there was a safe time to do so instead of rejoining at a 45 degree angle at an extremely dangerous part of the track.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision: Racing incident

The stewards treated this as a RI because Forza tyre barriers are more of a hindrance.

The stewards did not agree that Cerberus should have allowed himself to crash, it could have worse ramifications.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Mon 23 Apr 2018 - 0:01

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 343
Drivers Involved: Darkzer24, FoxxyGamingHD, Dr BecKx
Series: British GT
Round: 1 / VIR
Race: 2
Lobby: 3
Lap: 2

Evidence: https://clips.twitch.tv/EmpathicGoldenSowAMPEnergyCherry

Description by Darkzer24: Watch Solar's mirror. Foxxy runs off into the Snake, failed to control his car, and takes me and Beck out when he rejoins. ""Foxxy, watch your rejoin!"" can be heard being said. VSC was called after it was determined 3 cars were involved. This set be back over 2000 ft to the next GT3 car, and probably cost be 3-4 spots in the race.

Please give your response to this incident:

Stewards Decision: Racing Incident.

It is almost a carbon copy of the previous settled SI, although more damage was dealt. It is particularly unfortunate that Forza create egregious tyre barriers.
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Post by HCR Motorhead Wed 9 May 2018 - 2:22

Incident/s you are involved in are under investigation by the stewards;

Steward Inquiry Reference Number: 360
Drivers Involved: Jenson09
Series: British GT esports Championship 2018
Round: May 6th: Round 3 Indianapolis GP Alt Course
Race: Race 1
Lobby: Lobby 6
Lap: Lap 1, after parade lap, start of the race.

Evidence: https://imgur.com/a/iVWceCQ

Description by Ryanvxracing: As I crossed the start line I had a look around my car, like I always do, and saw that jenson was on a flyer, called him out there and then. On watching the replay, you can clearly see he was accelerating way before the line, He crossed the line at 93mph, while the car at the side of him didn't accelerate until the line, as per the rules, and was doing 81mph. The predetermined speed was 80mph.

Please give your response to this incident

Stewards Decision: No action.

It transpired that the start was somewhat messy and the grid was not uniform, Matt did not gain or lose relative to the field. It is stressed that the start and finish procedures are strictly controlled and enforced. We will not hesitate to impose strong penalties on clear breaches or causes of breaches.

//Stewards Note: We'll get him some day, but today is not that day
lol! lol! lol!
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