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Post by Diablo 29x Mon 10 Jun 2019 - 12:14

1:04.4 after 10. Another track where there's not a lot to separate the field.

I will say this: Mikey, I lamented MV Short Reserve, but I'll be damned if it didn't produce crazy racing, especially in Race 2. Silverstone Nat'l is considerably wider, so I expect this week to be more of the same Very Happy


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Post by DJProfessorK72 Mon 10 Jun 2019 - 18:28

LZR Diablo wrote:1:04.4 after 10. Another track where there's not a lot to separate the field.

I will say this: Mikey, I lamented MV Short Reserve, but I'll be damned if it didn't produce crazy racing, especially in Race 2. Silverstone Nat'l is considerably wider, so I expect this week to be more of the same Very Happy

I'm only capable of a 1:05.3 in the Abarth but did a 1:04.9 in the Corsa. Going to be working on both to try and figure out the next step both for AUS and the NA series.

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Mon 10 Jun 2019 - 18:42

LZR Diablo wrote:1:04.4 after 10. Another track where there's not a lot to separate the field.

I will say this: Mikey, I lamented MV Short Reserve, but I'll be damned if it didn't produce crazy racing, especially in Race 2. Silverstone Nat'l is considerably wider, so I expect this week to be more of the same Very Happy

Maple Valley Short gets a lot of flak in either direction, but for whatever reason it produces some great racing in lower class low HP cars. Would I ever use it for full sized car, say American Iron? Hell to the no. But for cars like this, it's always been uber close racing, if not "too close" at times.

Silverstone National is another track that has always seen some great racing in lower class cars, but at least seems to draw less skepticism when it pops up on the schedule.


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Post by DJProfessorK72 Mon 10 Jun 2019 - 19:33

Ax4x Mikey J wrote:
LZR Diablo wrote:1:04.4 after 10. Another track where there's not a lot to separate the field.

I will say this: Mikey, I lamented MV Short Reserve, but I'll be damned if it didn't produce crazy racing, especially in Race 2. Silverstone Nat'l is considerably wider, so I expect this week to be more of the same Very Happy

This is one that I absolutely hate, but it is what it is. They could burn this layout and just keep International and GP lol

Maple Valley Short gets a lot of flak in either direction, but for whatever reason it produces some great racing in lower class low HP cars. Would I ever use it for full sized car, say American Iron? Hell to the no. But for cars like this, it's always been uber close racing, if not "too close" at times.

Silverstone National is another track that has always seen some great racing in lower class cars, but at least seems to draw less skepticism when it pops up on the schedule.

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Post by Diablo 29x Mon 10 Jun 2019 - 19:40

I don't like lapping either track TBF but the racing is undoubtedly closer.

@ DJ: The Abarth lacks the top end so it doesn't surprise me it's slower than the Corsa.


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 Thu 13 Jun 2019 - 13:44

Seems that the Fiat or Vaux are the cars to have, is that what everyone is thinking too? I've been using the Ford, but may end up switching after this week.
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Post by Diablo 29x Thu 13 Jun 2019 - 17:36

NerdyCyclist11 wrote:Seems that the Fiat or Vaux are the cars to have, is that what everyone is thinking too?  I've been using the Ford, but may end up switching after this week.

The Ford is the hardest to drive/extract time from. A lot of people went with the Vauxhall but I went with the Renault. It requires constant tweaking to the gears, but it is pretty much on par with the Vauxhall. The Fiat doesn't have the top end of the other 3 cars, like 2-3 mph off.

IMO Vauxhall > Renault > Fiat > Ford


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 Thu 13 Jun 2019 - 21:44

LZR Diablo wrote:
NerdyCyclist11 wrote:Seems that the Fiat or Vaux are the cars to have, is that what everyone is thinking too?  I've been using the Ford, but may end up switching after this week.

The Ford is the hardest to drive/extract time from. A lot of people went with the Vauxhall but I went with the Renault. It requires constant tweaking to the gears, but it is pretty much on par with the Vauxhall. The Fiat doesn't have the top end of the other 3 cars, like 2-3 mph off.

IMO Vauxhall > Renault > Fiat > Ford

I love the Ford, but....might be playing around with the vauxhall for the rest of the races.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 13 Jun 2019 - 22:47

The European series looks like a Clio Cup with the odd Punto, Fiesta and Corsa mixed in.


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 Fri 14 Jun 2019 - 4:38

Yep, Clio is WAY faster than the ford. I was over a second faster in about 20 minutes of zipping Silverstone Nat.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 14 Jun 2019 - 4:41

NerdyCyclist11 wrote:Yep, Clio is WAY faster than the ford.  I was over a second faster in about 20 minutes of zipping Silverstone Nat.

Like Diablo explained, the Ford takes a lot more tuning to get the most out of it. That being said, a Fiesta has been winning most of the European races, however that is with AMS Mead driving it.


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 Sat 15 Jun 2019 - 0:52

It certainly seems finicky.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 0:04

Long Beach East: 1:01.1 Forza clean, 1:00.79 "TORA clean"

That being said, not sure if I will get a clean lap in Qualifying, and if I do, it will be mid 1:02s


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 2:51

Ax4x Mikey J wrote:Long Beach East: 1:01.1 Forza clean, 1:00.79 "TORA clean"

That being said, not sure if I will get a clean lap in Qualifying, and if I do, it will be mid 1:02s

what is TORA clean, not crashing i presume, or not hitting walls?
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Post by Ax4x Bayless 39 Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 4:34

TORA clean is 2 tires off is not cutting. Pretty much what used to be okay for Forza clean before they changed the track limits.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 7:14

^ Pretty much. TORA Driving Standards specifically say

"Two tires must be within the lines of the track at all times"

which is now more lenient than Forza's track limits, when before it was the opposite.



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Post by Diablo 29x Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 11:52

I put the ribbons up to physically find the track limits because they're kind of random. I believe I had the Corsa at a 1:00.4 in testing (clean), the Clio I have to figure out the gears for, right now it's bogging in nearly every turn.


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Post by NerdyCyclist11 Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 14:35

LZR Diablo wrote:I put the ribbons up to physically find the track limits because they're kind of random. I believe I had the Corsa at a 1:00.4 in testing (clean), the Clio I have to figure out the gears for, right now it's bogging in nearly every turn.

I hate how the clio sounds, sounds like one of those CVT-equipped cars.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 27 Jun 2019 - 17:13

NerdyCyclist11 wrote:

I hate how the clio sounds, sounds like one of those CVT-equipped cars.

You should hear the Vauxhall at high revs. Sounds like a washing machine full of ball bearings.


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