2012 FIA World Touring Car Championship

Monza was this weekend, so here are the races! The drivers were properly bump drafting down the straights, it's almost like plate racing for Europeans! I also absolutely love the on-board views, it's back to the classic mid-cockpit view that we used to get in the BTCC.

All i have to say about Race 2 is....PIGEON!!!

I couldn't believe it in race 2 when Michelisz smashed into the pigeon haha, unbelievable save by Muller as well that took some tekkers!

Can some one explain the race format for WTCC? Race 1 is only 10 laps long?

2 x 50 km. Races

Monza is a 5k. Lap.

actually enjoyed WTCC (Saturday shopping hatch backs) this weekend, MH was on fire on euro-sport HD

Started watching the races where I can during my shift. The cars look really good and racey this year, I was enjoying what I saw. Maybe it's just cause im in a TCC mood

narboza22 wrote:Can some one explain the race format for WTCC? Race 1 is only 10 laps long?

10 laps is a 50km race around Monza, and the WTCC have twin 50km races.

I also forgot to mention, I noticed some of the numbers were missing from their boxes...

I think that's because they can just put the numbers on the window strip

:-S, I've only just realised that ...

...but then why have the number boxes empty aswell :-S

Mandatory sponsor and event decals like what V8 Supercars have?

It's still odd though, you;d expect them to have the numbers in the rear-side windows.

They put them down the front underneath the mirrors now no?

Only watched the first half of race 1 so far, but I already fear an Yvan Muller shoe-in for the title. I really can't see any car and driver combination capable of taking the fight to him, not even from Huff.

Still, I'm quite keen on the WTCC this year. Coule be good with the mix of cars, and with the JAS Civic and Lada still to come this year. Annoyed they canned Donny though, I could have made it to that one!

Have touring car races always been that short? It seems weird to me that they are, but I guess I'm just not used to it since the only racing I've ever watched has been F1, sports cars, or Indy/NASCAR.

Also, why is that Cruze not in Forza?

narboza22 wrote:Have touring car races always been that short?

No...

http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jong/
http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t5290-group-a-the-basics-and-the-big-names

But the short races are short because they are made for TV, it may not look it. The WTCC is essentially a hark back to the days of the British Touring Car Championship between 1995 and 2000, it may not look it either, however a couple of years ago in the WTCC the entry list almost reads like a BTCC entry list from ten years previously.

http://www.supertouring.co.uk/

Was good racing really enjoyed it, hope the Fords get on the pace soon, but it was'nt like they were miles behind.

ADx Garage wrote:

narboza22 wrote:Have touring car races always been that short?

No...

http://homepage.mac.com/frank_de_jong/
http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t5290-group-a-the-basics-and-the-big-names

But the short races are short because they are made for TV, it may not look it. The WTCC is essentially a hark back to the days of the British Touring Car Championship between 1995 and 2000, it may not look it either, however a couple of years ago in the WTCC the entry list almost reads like a BTCC entry list from ten years previously.

http://www.supertouring.co.uk/

The BTCC used the two race format til 2003, then it adopted S2000 in 2004 along with the three race format. But unlike the WTCC races, BTCC had a mandatory pit stop for one or both of the races, depending on what year you are watching.

Of course, back around 20 years ago, the then ETCC (not a direct descendant of the ETCC from which the current WTCC grew out of, as that was the Italian STC) had very long races, often with driver changes. Races like the 24 Hours of Spa and the 1000km of Silverstone (now both GT and Sportscar races respectively) were part of the ETCC season. In 1987 when the ETCC briefly became the WTCC, the series also took in the 1000km race at Bathurst.

One of the reasons that V8 Supercar races are so long is because they still retain the sort of format that touring car racing had back in those days.

Is there anywhere online to watch the Valencia round? The Youtube channel was taken down.

Did anybody watch the Auto GP race today?

One of the best single seater battles I've seen in a while between Campana and Quaife-Hobbs for the lead in the closing laps.