Apr 24 - ELMS R2 (ISCC R5)- Mugello 1hr. 20:00 BST

so now both of you have 0% power handicaps

it looks that way!

Louis is the "owner" of this series. I'd wait for final word from him. If it is meant to be top 3, then I made a mistake.

Worm. I didn't correct you, but I did say "if you're going to do it, make sure you don't over-do it", which you did, seeing as you came 6th.

Final Results are provisional as a stewards investigation has been launched into the rolling start in lobby c. All drivers in lobby c are under investigation.

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For this series we shall keep it with the top 3 as that is what we have come used to. sorry pdilly you will have 5% added to your car.

so 10% total since i came in 3rd the previous race at nurburg?

That should be correct. I'm fine with 6th when it's 3 placers Chris. Remember I knew Ash was going to beat me and pretty much knew Slim was going to. I was worried about 3rd. Slim had no handicap and is a bit faster than I am.

EZT PDILLY77 wrote:so 10% total since i came in 3rd the previous race at nurburg?

yes, trying to stay consistant with rules to try and prevent confusion

OK, then I made a mistake in the setup of the table for the Mugello round and 3 drivers who should have had success handicaps did not have them, so is there any penalty/inquiry to be had in that case?

Also, what's the deal if "replacement" drivers place on the podium? Does the returning "regular" driver have the success ballast come the next round (i.e. it's the car not the person that is handicapped).

If that's the case then at Mugello the 3 people who should have had a penatly but didn't were VVV Micko, myself and EZT PDILLY77.

With the "additional/rollback" ballast added from the previous round, I have these (total) handicaps set up for Silverstone:

LMP1:

VVV Micko -10%
Bulletdodger831 -15%
FranchittiFan -5%

LMP2:

WWR Aero -10%
gen3ral ts0 -10%
culchi -10%

GT:

EZT Ash -5%
VVV Slim -5%
EZT PDILLY77 -10%


Please confirm if you agree that what I have above is correct.

Yes, I did drive Mugello with no handicap. I had no idea that i should inherit -5% power from VVV Nonni D who finished the last race in 3rd..
Nonni replaced me at the last race and made his own points in the standings, but if I inherit his ballast,shouldnt I also inherit his points aswell?

If there is a penalty handed to me, I will take it, and I´ll accept the 10% ballast at Silverstone

I agree with what Micko is saying. A stand-in driver gets his own points and they are not awarded to the driver who is being replaced. The handicap should be the same, the stand-in driver, if he returns, would get the handicap yet the returning driver wouldn't.

A stand-in driver for me may win a race, but I know I wouldn't. So I would end up witha 5% handicap and race further down the field than my stand-in would have. Doesn't seem fair.

-10% i thought its only 5%? just wondering i dont mind really it ll only be for one race ever lol

FranchittiFan wrote:-10% i thought its only 5%? just wondering i dont mind really it ll only be for one race ever lol

The R15 has 5% as standard, so add the ballast from one podium = 10%

I agree with what Micko is saying as well. If he should have a penalty from Nonni he should also get Nonni's points.

PDILLY also ran with his 5% handicap in the race thinking he had to, he was in group 2. We were both practicing that way so he was good anyhow.

Chris wrote:

FranchittiFan wrote:-10% i thought its only 5%? just wondering i dont mind really it ll only be for one race ever lol

The R15 has 5% as standard, so add the ballast from one podium = 10%

From what I can read in the "Entry-list / championship registration" thread, it says the R15 doesnt have any power handicap (0%)

Acura ARX-01b, ARX-02a and Peugeot have 5% power handicap.
Audi R10, Audi R15, Lola Aston Martin and Lola Mazda have 0%..

Allthough, I´ve been on a holiday for pretty long so I dont know if these things have changed?

It wasn't announced if they were. Can we get this straightened out? There seems to be too much confusion here.

chris i think ive never raced with power handicap you sure these lobbys are getting set up right???

yeah i had the correct handicap last race.

Chris wrote:OK, then I made a mistake in the setup of the table for the Mugello round and 3 drivers who should have had success handicaps did not have them, so is there any penalty/inquiry to be had in that case?

Also, what's the deal if "replacement" drivers place on the podium? Does the returning "regular" driver have the success ballast come the next round (i.e. it's the car not the person that is handicapped).

If that's the case then at Mugello the 3 people who should have had a penatly but didn't were VVV Micko, myself and EZT PDILLY77.

Answer for itallics= if they were on the podium at Nurburg and Mugello they now have 10% added on. if they didn't finish on the poium at Nurburg but did at Mugello they have 5% added. And if they finished on the podium at Nurburg but not at Mugello then they are back to standard power.

Answer for bold= The success balast will follow the driver no matter what car they are in.

Answer for the R15's starting power handy cap= the R15 starts out at 0% handy cap. it is only the 2 Acura's and Peugeot who start out with 5%. the rest of the prototypes are at 0% including the R15, R10, Aston & Mazda

Thanks

Yup that was weird - I had "no handicap" listed next to Chad's name on the entry list, but "group 2" which is what I looked at that threw me. I've edited it now.

sorry about the mix up guys mistakes happen and we shall carry on from here if anyone has any issues please dont hesitate to contact me or raise their issue on here we will try to sort it out.

My handicap was right for mugello, 10% is what I had. Silverstone would be 15% handicap since I finished 2nd at Mugello.

Just to get clarification, if I finish outside the top 3 at Silverstone will I go back to the beginning 5% handicap or only get 5% percent taken off for the next race?