MSA TORA TCC Season 7 - General Discussion

Apologies for the delays, apart from that I found ours was pretty smooth, well done to all in A Lobby, some great racing and without any incidents, Thank You!

IRT Flag wrote:B lobby was a complete shambles, severe contact every race. nothing else to say

There's nothing like tarring the whole of a lobby with the same brush.........wow

Sometimes it's better to use the systems in place to deal with issues rather than posting when annoyed

@Tubbi - thanks a million for hosting, everything ran really smoothly

@My B Lobby Comrades - thanks for some excellent racing!! Was great to trade paint with some familiar faces (Rougewilson, Gregbie, DruggedUpDonkey) and I look forward to the next round

Sorry D lobbies inital delay my son is not well infact he decided to empty the contents of his stomach 5 minutes after Q and Race 1

SelectiveRogue wrote:Sorry D lobbies inital delay my son is not well infact he decided to empty the contents of his stomach 5 minutes after Q and Race 1

I feel like doing that when you host my lobby too.....

CQR Aero wrote:

SelectiveRogue wrote:Sorry D lobbies inital delay my son is not well infact he decided to empty the contents of his stomach 5 minutes after Q and Race 1

I feel like doing that when you host my lobby too.....

I hit speedtest when your in my lobby dude

CQR Jono wrote:

IRT Flag wrote:B lobby was a complete shambles, severe contact every race. nothing else to say

There's nothing like tarring the whole of a lobby with the same brush.........wow

Sometimes it's better to use the systems in place to deal with issues rather than posting when annoyed

@Tubbi - thanks a million for hosting, everything ran really smoothly

@My B Lobby Comrades - thanks for some excellent racing!! Was great to trade paint with some familiar faces (Rougewilson, Gregbie, DruggedUpDonkey) and I look forward to the next round

Cheers Jono, i see you have lost none of ur pace

Was an interesting night. A few incidents, a few dramas, but wiser for it now

Onwards to the next rounds......Ps,,,ur car is looking luvery!!, very cool graphics

Greg

Id like to say that even with the delays I really enjoyed the first race all the racing was super close and I really can not wait for Round 2! Race 2 was my favourite as I was battling to keep one of the CQR lads behind me after a monster start all the way until lap 8. Great stuff guys!

Guys,

Just want to float one out there. How were the starts for folk with the mixture of FWD and RWD?

Greg

Really Good fun

I was certainly not complaining Gaining at least 2 spots on launch

then going sideways into the 2nd corner with a fwd bumper on your rear

Results from 'B' Lobby races:

Race 1:

1. cqr jono
2. cqr cpt nemo71
3. PLOW tubbi
4. cqr Hungover
5. bg wumba
6. o meado212 o
7. gregbie
8. rougewilson78
9. druggedupdonkey
10. irt flag
11. emw holty


Race 2:

1. cqr jono
2 cqr cpt nemo71
3. rougewilson78
4. cqr hungover
5. PLOW tubbi
6. bg wumba
7. irt flag
8. gregbie
9. druggedupdonkey
10. emw holty

DNF o meado212 o



Race 3:

1. druggedupdonkey
2. PLOW tubbi
3. rougewilson
4. cqr jono
5. bg wumba
6. gregbie
7. irt flag
8. cpt nemo
9. cqr hungover
10. emw holty

PLOW tubbi wrote:Results from 'B' Lobby races:

Race 1:

1. cqr jono
2. cqr cpt nemo71
3. PLOW tubbi
4. cqr Hungover
5. bg wumba
6. o meado212 o
7. gregbie
8. rougewilson78
9. druggedupdonkey
10. irt flag
11. emw holty


Race 2:

1. cqr jono
2 cqr cpt nemo71
3. rougewilson78
4. cqr hungover
5. PLOW tubbi
6. bg wumba
7. irt flag
8. gregbie
9. druggedupdonkey
10. emw holty

DNF o meado212 o



Race 3:

1. druggedupdonkey
2. PLOW tubbi
3. rougewilson
4. cqr jono
5. bg wumba
6. gregbie
7. irt flag
8. cpt nemo
9. cqr hungover
10. emw holty

Whjere was Juicy Duby?

Juicy left the first race about 5 laps in for some reason

Gregbie wrote:Guys,

Just want to float one out there. How were the starts for folk with the mixture of FWD and RWD?

Greg

The starts were my highlights in the NATCC Rounds tonight.

Too bad the races were 3x10 laps. If it was 10x3 laps I might have won one

I must admit. Even just after the little time I could spend due to technical reasons. Last nights racing was excellent. The whole TORA staff and host etc did an exceptional job. With the usual hickups which will arise due to the nature of online gaming, I thoroughly enjoyed it. They did an outstanding effort with the lobby timing problems. Well done guys.

I honestly cannot believe people blaming hosts to be at fault with connection issues. The NAT issues are a problem for each individual not just the host.

Me however have not been able to race for over 8 month due to a horrendous problem with Virgin. Yesterday was the first time my network has been working at correct speeds. After testing with BG Wingnut and confirmation from the CQR guys I could run the race.

I am hoping the issues my end are getting permanently fixed as I seem another VM van outside my house this morning .

Can't wait till next time.

Thanks again guys for the awesome night.

is there any chance i can be put on a reserve list should a place open up after the 3rd rd?

Dav of Krypton wrote:I honestly cannot believe people blaming hosts to be at fault with connection issues. The NAT issues are a problem for each individual not just the host.

It was an issue with the host though, 5 people in that lobby were affected while they could connect to qualifying host with no issue

Myles Prower wrote:

Dav of Krypton wrote:I honestly cannot believe people blaming hosts to be at fault with connection issues. The NAT issues are a problem for each individual not just the host.

It was an issue with the host though, 5 people in that lobby were affected while they could connect to qualifying host with no issue

Sorry but no.

I have hosted for 6 years here.

No issues.

5 drivers

Your team couldnt connect.

I was told 2 of your team have moderate NATs

1 of your team connected and lagged out in the lobby

x2 other drivers left due to time dealy I was informed.


Only issues I get are when drivers have Moderate NAT settings or incorrect ports.


If you see here and make sure you do the following - http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t9650-getting-an-open-nat

What is NAT?

NAT, or Network Address Translation, is a networking concept that allows your router to share a single IP address across multiple devices. Instead of your Internet service provider (ISP) assigning an IP address to every device that connects to the Internet, NAT allows your ISP to assign a single IP address to your router. The router then manages a set of IP addresses for all the devices on your home network.

When you have a NAT warning, you might experience the following symptoms:
•You cannot hear a player within a game or someone cannot hear you.
•You cannot join a party or your friend can’t join your party.

Some things to be aware of:
•NAT problems do not affect game play speed. A NAT warning affects the ability to connect and communicate with other players.
•If you are using a network at your workplace or college, there is a good chance that you are behind a proxy server or firewall, which is why you are experiencing NAT issues. Contact the network administrator for help.
•You should not experience a NAT warning if you are using a wired modem connection.
•If you’re using hardware that is compatible with Windows Vista or Windows 7, NAT issues should not occur.


Find out if you have a NAT warning

To find out if you have a NAT problem, test your connection. Here’s how:
1.Press the Guide button on your controller, go to Settings and then select System Settings.
2.Select Network Settings.
3.Select Wired Network or your wireless network name (if you are prompted to do so).
4.Select Test Xbox LIVE Connection.

If you get a NAT error, you might not be able to join some games or hear other players when playing games online.

To resolve the NAT problem, try the following solutions.


Resolving NAT issues

Solution 1: Restart your network equipment

Solution 2: Turn on UPnP on your network hardware

Solution 3: Simplify your setup

Solution 4: Open network ports



Solution 1: Restart your network equipment

1.Turn off your console and network hardware (for example, your modem and router).
2.Wait 30 seconds.
3.Turn on your modem and wait for it to come back online (approximately one minute).
4.Turn on the next piece of hardware (for example, the router), and wait another minute.
5.Repeat step 4 for every additional piece of network hardware.

Now test your connection again as described above. If you still receive a NAT warning, please try the next solution.

Solution 2: Turn on UPnP on your network hardware


Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) is a standard that helps routers communicate effectively.

If your router or gateway supports UPnP, make sure this setting is turned on. Refer to your hardware documentation for help turning on UPnP. Most hardware manufacturers have websites that include support information.

If you change the UPnP setting on your network hardware, restart your hardware and test your Xbox LIVE connection.

If you still receive a NAT warning, please try the next solution.

Solution 3: Simplify your setup
Your router or gateway might be having problems sharing an Internet connection. To see whether this is true, try simplifying your setup. Do one of the following:
•Wired connection: Temporarily unplug everything from your router, except the cable to your modem and the cable to your Xbox 360 console.
•Wireless connection: Temporarily turn off everything that's connected to your wireless network except your Xbox 360 console.

Now test your connection again as described above. If you do not receive a NAT warning after simplifying your setup, it suggests that the router is having problems handling multiple connections. To try to fix the problem, please go to the next solution.

Solution 4: Open network ports

Your network hardware or firewall might be blocking communication with the Xbox LIVE servers.

If you're connected to a network through your workplace or a school/university, ask the network administrator to open the following ports:
•Port 88 (UDP)
•Port 3074 (UDP and TCP)
•Port 53 (UDP and TCP)
•Port 80 (TCP)

If you’re not connected to a workplace or college network, you need to open network ports on your network hardware. There are two ways to open network ports: port triggering, and port forwarding. Port triggering is the quickest way to open network ports, however, not all routers support port triggering. Check your router documentation to find out if port triggering is supported. If your router does not support port triggering, try port forwarding.

Method 1: Port triggering
When you set up port triggering on your router, you need to trigger the following ports:
•Port 3074 (UDP and TCP)
•Port 88 (UDP)

Typically, you need to set the following for each port that needs triggering:

‘Application name’: Xbox LIVE ‘trigger port’ to UDP 88 and ‘forwarded port’ to UDP 88

Refer to your router documentation for information on how to set up port triggering.

Method 2: Port forwarding
Part 1: Switch to manual IP settings

Before opening ports on your network hardware, you need to get the IP settings from your computer and then use those IP settings on your Xbox 360 console.

Get your computer’s IP settings
1.On your computer, click Start, type cmd, and then press ENTER.

Note If you’re using Windows XP, click Start, click Run, type cmd, and then press ENTER.
2.At the prompt, type ipconfig, and then press ENTER.
3.Find your network connection (for example, look for something called "Local Area Connection" or "Wireless Network Connection"). Write down the numbers for the following items:

◦IPv4 address (or IP address)
◦Subnet mask
◦Default gateway
4.Make up a unique IP address for your Xbox 360 console, and write it down. A simple way to do this is to add 10 to the last number of your computer’s default gateway address. For example, if your computer’s address is 192.168.1.1, use 192.168.1.11 for your console’s unique IP address.

Note Each IP address on your network must be unique.

Now you need to set your console’s IP settings.

Set your console’s IP settings
1.On your console, press the Guide button on your controller, go to Settings, and then select System Settings.
2.Select Network Settings.
3.Select Wired Network or the name of your wireless network (if you are prompted to do so).
4.Select Configure Network.
5.On the Basic Settings tab, select IP Settings.
6.Select Manual.
7.Select IP Address.
8.Enter the unique IP address that you made up, and then select Done.
9.Select Subnet Mask, enter your computer’s subnet mask, and then select Done.
10.Select Gateway, enter your computer’s default gateway, and then select Done.
11.Select Done.
12.Press B on your controller, and then test your connection again.

Part 2: Open ports on your router or gateway

Next, open ports on your router or gateway so that your network hardware can communicate with the Xbox LIVE servers.

Open ports on your router or gateway
1.Start your web browser.
2.In the Address bar, type the default IP address for your router or gateway, and then press ENTER. Here are the default IP addresses for a few router and gateway manufacturers:

Belkin: 192.168.2.1
Linksys by Cisco: 192.168.1.1
D-Link: 192.168.0.1
NETGEAR: 192.168.0.1. or 192.168.1.1

If your manufacturer is not listed above, refer to your documentation or your hardware manufacturer's website for help finding the default IP address.
3.Type your user name and password (for your router or gateway), and then click OK.

Note If you do not know the default user name and password, refer to your hardware manufacturer’s documentation.
4.Once you are logged in, you should see your router or gateway's configuration page.
5.Open the following ports:

◦Port 88 (UDP)
◦Port 3074 (UDP and TCP)
◦Port 53 (UDP and TCP)
◦Port 80 (TCP)

A resource that might help you open ports on your router is the Port Forward website. Go to the Port Forwarding Guides for Xbox LIVE 360 page to find instructions for your router.

Tip The Port Forward website is available only in English. To translate the site, copy and paste the URL (www.portfoward.com) into a translation tool, such as Bing Translator.

For more help with opening network ports, contact whoever provides support for your router, such as your Internet service provider or router manufacturer.

Microsoft disclaims any and all liability arising out of your use of the third-party companies, software, solutions, services and training listed on the site. All software, solutions, services and training are provided "as is" and without warranty unless provided by the authoring third-party company.
Restart your network equipment http://support.xbox.com/en-GB/xbox-live/connecting/nat-type-strict#efe7e8f9ed7044eeb82ac3962e8bb8bdRestart your network equipment

Okay, I'm just really annoyed, I spent alot of time practising and wasted alot of time that evening, I'll see what I can do and just live & learn, also my NAT was open (According to Halo Reach)

Myles Prower wrote:

Dav of Krypton wrote:I honestly cannot believe people blaming hosts to be at fault with connection issues. The NAT issues are a problem for each individual not just the host.

It was an issue with the host though, 5 people in that lobby were affected while they could connect to qualifying host with no issue

I understand your frustration mate. But unless you went through the list of who was in your qually lobby and who was in the race lobby, then the only extra/different person in the lobby was the host. It could never be pointed (not saying it wasn't but never know it myself before) directly at the host. The is too many variants of people in the qually and race lobby. It happened to myself last year with getting into a lobby, which I know I have never had any problems connecting to the host in the previous days (I think it was BG Chucky) but in that instance due to having 8 more people in the lobby with 1 I couldn't connect to.

I do hope EVERYONE not just the people like yourself who couldn't connect. Rechecks there modem/router settings.

It is easy just to do a network test on Xbox dash. It will tell them if there is a NAT issue. Simple as that. Over the last 14 month of BB problems I could pretty much work as a tech support for virgin .

Gregbie wrote:Cheers Jono, i see you have lost none of ur pace

That's very kind of you to say Greg - you've even made me blush

However, I'll let you in to a little secret.............without a last minute tune from my team-mate and some drastic changes to my wheel settings I'd have really struggled and definitely not run 34.4's

Gregbie wrote:Ps,,,ur car is looking luvery!!, very cool graphics

I'd love to take credit but you know what my Forza painting skills are like

CQR Jono wrote:

Gregbie wrote:Cheers Jono, i see you have lost none of ur pace

That's very kind of you to say Greg - you've even made me blush

However, I'll let you in to a little secret.............without a last minute tune from my team-mate and some drastic changes to my wheel settings I'd have really struggled and definitely not run 34.4's

Gregbie wrote:Ps,,,ur car is looking luvery!!, very cool graphics

I'd love to take credit but you know what my Forza painting skills are like

i have been messing with my wheel a bit as well. I have the CSR now with the elite pedals,,what a difference

But i came accross this guys guide of rthe settings he has used,,have ot admit i quite like the feel of them. Think i have seen his name about as well.



But,,if you have found settings that improve the whee more, feel free to pass em on chief

Greg

Is there a reserve entry list for this series?

SnippetyOggy86 wrote:Is there a reserve entry list for this series?

Hey dude not at the momment however after 3 rounds if drivers dont show up we will open entrys up