Porsche Supercup Announcement please read.
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Porsche Supercup Announcement please read.
Hello everyone, hope you all are well and getting the trucks unloaded for next Sundays racing.
I have been reading about alot of bad situations regarding the first 3 meetings of Porsche Supercup. This surprized me because I thought that it had gone very well with minimal troubles and the racing very close and majority clean.
However,
I know there hasn't been a real stewards decision from anything that's been posted up about an inquire up to date.
Reason for that is FM4 is not being reviewed by the stewards (Guys in yellow) It came to a sudden shock to myself and everyone involved in PSC this meant we were not aware of what was going to happen to any issues you guys post and the manner on how it will be conducted.
So to combat this, the Staff/CT/Marshalls and any stewards who are doing this series and willing to help with stewarding will do this to the best of our abilities and still follow the same practices as if stewards were still looking at it.
To submit an SI PM either LMR Bandit/ Flying MikeyJ /Shrinkingsteven then things will be taken from there.
(Remember we all have lives outside of TORA so do not expect it to be instant)
Now, regarding anything that has happened in previous rounds I will let slide and for round 4 have a clean slate and work forward with you guys together as a community to make this work, implementing what I have said above into action.
I honestly hope this has cleared up alot of confusion with you all, see you all at Lemans. Any other quires PM me and ill try to help the best I can i know I cant please everyone.
Thanks for reading.
Steve.
I have been reading about alot of bad situations regarding the first 3 meetings of Porsche Supercup. This surprized me because I thought that it had gone very well with minimal troubles and the racing very close and majority clean.
However,
I know there hasn't been a real stewards decision from anything that's been posted up about an inquire up to date.
Reason for that is FM4 is not being reviewed by the stewards (Guys in yellow) It came to a sudden shock to myself and everyone involved in PSC this meant we were not aware of what was going to happen to any issues you guys post and the manner on how it will be conducted.
So to combat this, the Staff/CT/Marshalls and any stewards who are doing this series and willing to help with stewarding will do this to the best of our abilities and still follow the same practices as if stewards were still looking at it.
To submit an SI PM either LMR Bandit/ Flying MikeyJ /Shrinkingsteven then things will be taken from there.
(Remember we all have lives outside of TORA so do not expect it to be instant)
Now, regarding anything that has happened in previous rounds I will let slide and for round 4 have a clean slate and work forward with you guys together as a community to make this work, implementing what I have said above into action.
I honestly hope this has cleared up alot of confusion with you all, see you all at Lemans. Any other quires PM me and ill try to help the best I can i know I cant please everyone.
Thanks for reading.
Steve.
ShrinkingSteven- TORA Race Number : 8
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Well said sir, let's hope we can move forward with the continued awsome racing!!
dave sp2- TORA Race Number : 492
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Ridiculous that fm4 isn't being looked at by stewards. Why not get stewards who can? I was refused to be a steward because i didnt have forza 5
Well handled Steven!
Well handled Steven!
FSR Groves- TORA Race Number : 96
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It was a staff decision a while back that the TCC was to be the last FM4 series handled directly by the Stewards team.
At the time, I believe the consensus was that nobody would be racing Forza 4 or on the 360.
At the time, I believe the consensus was that nobody would be racing Forza 4 or on the 360.
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What?! Nobody would be racing on it?! Im actually shocked.. (Not having a go at you Mikey by the way)
FSR Groves- TORA Race Number : 96
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Hmmm. Wonder what happened to staff telling us FM4 wouldnt be abandoned...
TheAngryPudding- TORA Race Number : 989
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Not quite "abandoned", more along the lines of "neglected".
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The same staff that said fm4 would not be used at all after fm5 came out, and that project cars will be the future. Neither statement has yet been true!
dave sp2- TORA Race Number : 492
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You're all getting the same service as before, it makes no difference if it comes from a guy with a orange name or a guy with a blue or green name. Just enjoy the fact that the staff on TORA are going out of their way to at least run series on FM4 so you can actually enjoy the racing, that's why you guys are here in the first place.
TLR Scrublord- TORA Race Number : 11
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count me in for doing the steward stuff
SFM Benedict- TORA Race Number : 21
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HaydieT wrote:You're all getting the same service as before, it makes no difference if it comes from a guy with a orange name or a guy with a blue or green name. Just enjoy the fact that the staff on TORA are going out of their way to at least run series on FM4 so you can actually enjoy the racing, that's why you guys are here in the first place.
^^This guy.
Cheers Hunty as well top man!
ShrinkingSteven- TORA Race Number : 8
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I disagree we race on TORA because its sapposed to be the best in the world.HaydieT wrote:You're all getting the same service as before, it makes no difference if it comes from a guy with a orange name or a guy with a blue or green name. Just enjoy the fact that the staff on TORA are going out of their way to at least run series on FM4 so you can actually enjoy the racing, that's why you guys are here in the first place.
Clearly many more stewerds would have steped up for dutys on TORA4 if we would have known 98% were jumping ship to TORA5 hense the lack of communication i have spoke of before!
As for the people complaining about the "winging" going on rember these words young paddyjaun
Squeaky wheel will get you greasing
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ok this has gone into an argument
i will say looking back on the lobbys i end up in there has only been a few incedents like spin outs or lagg the only noticble ones where man like chaz and british first on sebring and an incedent nuirburging but are racing incedents
i feel if stewerds wont look at these then those who will agree to do as such hunty can possible work on here or other forza 4 events there in more otherwise its up to host
now as to forza 4 until upto 60% have an xbox one i feel the 360 should NOT be abbandoned and should be treated equel as the servers wont be shut down for the next 2 years
viper
i will say looking back on the lobbys i end up in there has only been a few incedents like spin outs or lagg the only noticble ones where man like chaz and british first on sebring and an incedent nuirburging but are racing incedents
i feel if stewerds wont look at these then those who will agree to do as such hunty can possible work on here or other forza 4 events there in more otherwise its up to host
now as to forza 4 until upto 60% have an xbox one i feel the 360 should NOT be abbandoned and should be treated equel as the servers wont be shut down for the next 2 years
viper
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you could speak to the event coordinator and make a dedicated steward team for each FM4 series ?
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Simple fact it, staff went to great lengths to say Forza 4 wouldnt be in the exact position it is in now. It is fortunate that the Community Team are taking on extra duties on top of the stuff they are already doing to keep people racing in the manner they have become accustomed to, but it would appear that despite assurances that XB360 / FM4 wouldnt be ditched by staff, that is exactly what has happened.
And before I get the usual sarcy "Why dont you help out then" that seems to follow any critique of TORA, I have on countless occasions offered to help with Stewarding (cant be available to host as my schedule doesnt allow that amount of time) and it hasnt so much been rejected as completely ignored.
And before I get the usual sarcy "Why dont you help out then" that seems to follow any critique of TORA, I have on countless occasions offered to help with Stewarding (cant be available to host as my schedule doesnt allow that amount of time) and it hasnt so much been rejected as completely ignored.
TheAngryPudding- TORA Race Number : 989
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Okay well. I'm sure I have covered this pretty much anyways and well its all been churned over again and again regarding the whole staff to FM5 thing.
However its happened and we have to deal with it.
[Censored] has happened and we need to just get on with it which is exactly what for about 10 months now myself and others have ran two GT championships and various other series, for you guys to keep racing alive on the 360.
So in all honestly this is the first time that we have truly been left on our own. Without steward input etc, so we will just have to deal with it as a community? ( Isn't that actually better than it was before then?)
Can we drop this now? I mean I don't see many lap times being posted up for this weekend. What is this Audi sandbagging or Red bull poker bluffing?
Much love!
Steve.
However its happened and we have to deal with it.
[Censored] has happened and we need to just get on with it which is exactly what for about 10 months now myself and others have ran two GT championships and various other series, for you guys to keep racing alive on the 360.
So in all honestly this is the first time that we have truly been left on our own. Without steward input etc, so we will just have to deal with it as a community? ( Isn't that actually better than it was before then?)
Can we drop this now? I mean I don't see many lap times being posted up for this weekend. What is this Audi sandbagging or Red bull poker bluffing?
Much love!
Steve.
ShrinkingSteven- TORA Race Number : 8
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