MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
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MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
The Clubman Cup returns towards the end of the MSA National Motorsport Week with an extended Cup that will feature more races throughout the night.
The previous Cup took place over three races at three different tracks. This time the Cup will be run for a longer period throughout the night with two races taking part on each track and there will be three tracks we will visit. The tracks will be different from the previous Cup as we travel to Suzuka, Laguna Seca and Catalunya.
There will be no qualifying as grids will be set to random for the first race at each track. The grid will then be set to reverse lobby points for the second race around each circuit.
The cars list remains relatively unchanged, with additions to the banned car list. The PIs have also been slightly adjusted, with FWD being allowed to be built up to 480 and can have wider tyres fitted as noted in the rules below:
Rules & Regs
Class = B
PI = FWD - 470 / RWD - 460
Power = 201-249bhp
Weight = 2,201-2,699lbs
Year = 1980 onwards
Type = Production
-FWD PI 480
-RWD PI 460
-Race Brakes
-Race Suspension
-Race Rollcage
-Sport Tyres
-Tyre width of 225 maximum unless the cars come standard with wider ones on RWD cars only.
-Tyre width of 245 maximum unless the cars come standard with wider ones on FWD cars only.
-NO Forza Front and Rear Wing (Adjustable Aero) *this includes removing any standard adjustable aero i.e. the Mercedes 190E*
-NO Race gearbox
-NO AWD
-NO FWD to RWD Conversions
-NO Centrifugal Superchargers
Car List
PI 460 - RWD
1990 Subaru Legacy RS
1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
1992 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
1986 Alfa Romeo GTV-6
1988 Mitsubishi Starion
2007 Mazda MX-5 Roadster Coupe
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
1982 DeLorean DMC-12
1980 Abarth 131
1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E
1986 Alfa Romeo Spider
1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K's
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
2002 Toyota MR-S
2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
2004 Mazda RX-8
1980 Lotus Esprit Turbo
1989 Toyota MR2 SC
1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
1984 Toyota Celica Supra
1992 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185
PI480 - FWD
2011 Nissan Micra
2010 Fiat Punto Evo SPORT
2009 Renault Twingo
1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
2003 Ford SVT Focus
2000 Honda Integra Type-R
2009 Honda Fit Sport
2009 SEAT Ibiza Cupra
2010 Renault Clio RS
2007 Renault Clio RS 197
2011 Citroen DS3
2011 Volkswagen Polo GTI
1997 Honda Civic Type R
2001 Acura Integra Type R
1997 Volvo 850 R
2008 Alfa Romeo MiTo
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
1994 Honda Civic 1.5 VTi
2003 Mini Cooper S
1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
2010 Peugeot RCZ
2009 Mini Cooper Works
2011 Aston Martin Cygnet
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
2009 Scion xD
1998 Volkswagen GTI VR6 Mk3
2011 Volkswagen Fox
Banned Cars
1991 BMW M3
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
2003 Toyota Celica
2003 Hyundai Tuscani Elisa
All TORA TCC Cars
Assists
Allowed
TCS
Racing Line (Full or Braking Only)
Normal or Simulation Steering
Manual or Manual with Clutch
Banned
ABS
STM
Assisted Steering & braking
Auto Brake
Auto Gears
Damage will be set to Limited.
Cars may be painted up in any livery following the TORA guidelines, and a Numberbox (which will be used in all MSA National Motorsport Week races) will be issued before the event.
Please post your interest in this thread and discuss the Clubman Cup.
The previous Cup took place over three races at three different tracks. This time the Cup will be run for a longer period throughout the night with two races taking part on each track and there will be three tracks we will visit. The tracks will be different from the previous Cup as we travel to Suzuka, Laguna Seca and Catalunya.
There will be no qualifying as grids will be set to random for the first race at each track. The grid will then be set to reverse lobby points for the second race around each circuit.
The cars list remains relatively unchanged, with additions to the banned car list. The PIs have also been slightly adjusted, with FWD being allowed to be built up to 480 and can have wider tyres fitted as noted in the rules below:
Rules & Regs
Class = B
PI = FWD - 470 / RWD - 460
Power = 201-249bhp
Weight = 2,201-2,699lbs
Year = 1980 onwards
Type = Production
-FWD PI 480
-RWD PI 460
-Race Brakes
-Race Suspension
-Race Rollcage
-Sport Tyres
-Tyre width of 225 maximum unless the cars come standard with wider ones on RWD cars only.
-Tyre width of 245 maximum unless the cars come standard with wider ones on FWD cars only.
-NO Forza Front and Rear Wing (Adjustable Aero) *this includes removing any standard adjustable aero i.e. the Mercedes 190E*
-NO Race gearbox
-NO AWD
-NO FWD to RWD Conversions
-NO Centrifugal Superchargers
Car List
PI 460 - RWD
1990 Subaru Legacy RS
1993 Ford SVT Cobra R
1985 Toyota Sprinter Trueno GT Apex
1992 Toyota Supra 2.0 GT Twin Turbo
1987 Ford Sierra Cosworth RS500
1992 Alfa Romeo 155 Q4
1995 Toyota MR2 GT
1986 Alfa Romeo GTV-6
1988 Mitsubishi Starion
2007 Mazda MX-5 Roadster Coupe
1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth
1983 Volvo 242 Turbo Evolution
1982 DeLorean DMC-12
1980 Abarth 131
1994 Mazda MX-5 Miata
2000 Nissan Silvia Spec-R
1990 Mercedes-Benz 190E
1986 Alfa Romeo Spider
1992 Nissan Silvia CLUB K's
1988 Pontiac Fiero GT
2002 Toyota MR-S
2004 Toyota Altezza RS200
2004 Mazda RX-8
1980 Lotus Esprit Turbo
1989 Toyota MR2 SC
1990 Mazda Savanna RX-7
1984 Toyota Celica Supra
1992 Toyota Celica GT-Four RC ST185
PI480 - FWD
2011 Nissan Micra
2010 Fiat Punto Evo SPORT
2009 Renault Twingo
1986 Dodge Shelby Omni GLHS
2003 Ford SVT Focus
2000 Honda Integra Type-R
2009 Honda Fit Sport
2009 SEAT Ibiza Cupra
2010 Renault Clio RS
2007 Renault Clio RS 197
2011 Citroen DS3
2011 Volkswagen Polo GTI
1997 Honda Civic Type R
2001 Acura Integra Type R
1997 Volvo 850 R
2008 Alfa Romeo MiTo
1992 Volkswagen Golf GTi 16v Mk2
1994 Honda Civic 1.5 VTi
2003 Mini Cooper S
1999 Honda Civic Si Coupe
2010 Peugeot RCZ
2009 Mini Cooper Works
2011 Aston Martin Cygnet
1995 Volkswagen Corrado VR6
2009 Scion xD
1998 Volkswagen GTI VR6 Mk3
2011 Volkswagen Fox
Banned Cars
1991 BMW M3
1982 Lancia 037 Stradale
2003 Toyota Celica
2003 Hyundai Tuscani Elisa
All TORA TCC Cars
Assists
Allowed
TCS
Racing Line (Full or Braking Only)
Normal or Simulation Steering
Manual or Manual with Clutch
Banned
ABS
STM
Assisted Steering & braking
Auto Brake
Auto Gears
Damage will be set to Limited.
Cars may be painted up in any livery following the TORA guidelines, and a Numberbox (which will be used in all MSA National Motorsport Week races) will be issued before the event.
Please post your interest in this thread and discuss the Clubman Cup.
Last edited by Richy59 on Thu 28 Jun 2012 - 6:25; edited 1 time in total
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
i'm in here, oh can't wait to race my actual car in the game
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
I am very much IN for this.
I have a car choice Q: how about the gen-1 RX7? I built one according to specs and would love to give it a go.
I have a car choice Q: how about the gen-1 RX7? I built one according to specs and would love to give it a go.
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Depending on interest and timings, especially for the guys in the US, we could run this an hour later at 9pm BST if that help.
I think I made a Gen 1 RX7 before I went away, I will check tomorrow when I get home and update the list.
I think I made a Gen 1 RX7 before I went away, I will check tomorrow when I get home and update the list.
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
I just noticed the date in the title, isn't this event on Saturday and not Sunday?
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Yeah, Saturday is the 7th and Sunday the 8th is the start of GT Season 9.
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Sounds good to me
Dav of Krypton- TORA Race Number : 187
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
I should be able to make this event.
Now to choose a car.
Now to choose a car.
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
In for this - built/basic tuned 12 cars over the past couple of nights.
Ran them at Laguna Seca last night and, surprise surprise, the quickest was the 12th car I ran
Ran them at Laguna Seca last night and, surprise surprise, the quickest was the 12th car I ran
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Any idea when we'll have confirmation of exactly which tracks we're running at Suzuka and Catalunya?!?
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
I am interested. Can you point me to the details of the event and what I need to do.
Thanks
Thanks
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
tsaFooT told me that the last race was great so i'm in
Thanks
Thanks
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Ok, I'm an idiot, I have read the thread properly now.DangerDave49 wrote:I am interested. Can you point me to the details of the event and what I need to do.
Thanks
Yes, In please.
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Im in for this, not a clue what car yet though.
Stan - can you send me on the required logo's please?
Stan - can you send me on the required logo's please?
Mandown46- TORA Race Number : 93
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
The 1992 Ford Escort RS Cosworth is down on you list as RWD but it shows as AWD in Forza.
Is this car valid please?
Is this car valid please?
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Ha, I have just found there is a RWD conversion. I'll assume this is the correct thing to do.
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
will any of you guys be practising on thursday or friday nights?
I'm not fast but would like to get an idea of how far i will be off the pace.
cheers.
I'm not fast but would like to get an idea of how far i will be off the pace.
cheers.
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Sorry for the late replies, yeah the Escort is a RWD swap.
I'm not sure who will be practising, there is a Historic GT race on Thursday and the Fun Friday night.
I'm not sure who will be practising, there is a Historic GT race on Thursday and the Fun Friday night.
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Did all the testing I need soon after the last Clubman Cup. Just wondering, since the Clubman races are supposed to be a test for the VLN races, are we allowed to race different cars in the three races? I have an old gen-1 RX7 and a rotary powered Frankenmiata I would like to race... actually have five or six oddball cars built to spec.
Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
Richy59 wrote:Sorry for the late replies, yeah the Escort is a RWD swap.
I'm not sure who will be practising, there is a Historic GT race on Thursday and the Fun Friday night.
What's fun Friday night?
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Re: MSA TORA Clubman Cup - 07/07/12 - 8pm BST
DangerDave49 wrote:Richy59 wrote:Sorry for the late replies, yeah the Escort is a RWD swap.
I'm not sure who will be practising, there is a Historic GT race on Thursday and the Fun Friday night.
What's fun Friday night?
National Motorsport Week & TORA
Richy59 wrote:Yeah, Friday will be a selection of races. I will update this today but we are currently looking at a Transit Trophy, the 24 Minutes of Lemons (F class cars, smallest tracker can find) and maybe some hill climb.
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