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Post by TJSteel Tue 31 May 2016 - 10:00

LMR Harmonic wrote:The Huracan is too fast to be included here. Even at 10% it outdoes the next fastest GT car by 10+ MPH on the straights. If anyone is in it, they should be offered a car change without losing the points awarded for staying in the same car. Then again, if the points are only awarded for a whole season in the same car, that won't matter, and switching won't be an issue.

No-one gets points for staying in the same car, that's never been in the rules so switching isn't an issue
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Post by LMP Phantom Tue 31 May 2016 - 16:31

HCR TJSteel wrote:
LMR Harmonic wrote:The Huracan is too fast to be included here. Even at 10% it outdoes the next fastest GT car by 10+ MPH on the straights. If anyone is in it, they should be offered a car change without losing the points awarded for staying in the same car. Then again, if the points are only awarded for a whole season in the same car, that won't matter, and switching won't be an issue.

No-one gets points for staying in the same car, that's never been in the rules so switching isn't an issue

My findings with all the current builds and a build i did to try balance the huracan - Huracan, not the fastest

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Post by NSA Roca Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 13:50

Very disappointed damage will be set to cosmetic for this race. There is now little to know strategy to running. Sure 2 mandatory pits per stint. but in the end it is for the most part based off of who can run the fastest, not lag out,and just make every stint. From my understanding this is because of the GTR LMP1 car. The car should just been taken out. Changing the rules for one car is ridiculous in my opinion. I am also not a fan of rules changing mid season no matter the cause.
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Post by xebot360 Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 14:12

LMP Phantom wrote:
HCR TJSteel wrote:
LMR Harmonic wrote:The Huracan is too fast to be included here. Even at 10% it outdoes the next fastest GT car by 10+ MPH on the straights. If anyone is in it, they should be offered a car change without losing the points awarded for staying in the same car. Then again, if the points are only awarded for a whole season in the same car, that won't matter, and switching won't be an issue.

No-one gets points for staying in the same car, that's never been in the rules so switching isn't an issue

My findings with all the current builds and a build i did to try balance the huracan - Huracan, not the fastest

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We've tuned the cars and the Hurican was a lot quicker than the others. Sorry

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Post by HCR Bellmond Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 17:38

Well the Beemer is OP beyond belief so you might as well have put the Lambo in
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 18:24

NSA Roca wrote:Very disappointed damage will be set to cosmetic for this race. There is now little to know strategy to running. Sure 2 mandatory pits per stint.  but in the end it is for the most part based off of who can run the fastest, not lag out,and just make every stint. From my understanding this is because of the GTR LMP1 car. The car should just been taken out. Changing the rules for one car is ridiculous in my opinion. I am also not a fan of rules changing mid season no matter the cause.

If I recall, the LMP class as a whole suffers from fuel mileage imbalances. 2-5 lap fuel runs. A: too many stops, and B: some cars getting more than twice the mileage per tank.
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Post by SGR Amber Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 19:05

The Nissan is not alone.
Nissan: 3 laps
Rebellion: 3 laps
Audi: 4 laps
Toyota: 6 laps
Porsche: 6 laps

Not just the Nissan. If you want to rid of the imbalanced cars, may as well just be the Porsche and Toyota, which isn't happening.
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Post by NSA Roca Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 19:48

I still believe it should be simulation. There are plenty of cars to pick, just don't pick the one with bad mileage. So what if you have to pit X amount of times a stint. That stuff doesn't bother me. What annoys me is a car can now hit a wall at 170 mph and there fine. Not okay with that.  I understand turn 10 screwed us with the mileage but I don't think that is a good enough reason to not run simulation. But hey I respect your opinions and obviously I am not in the position to make changes, so let's just have a good race I gues.
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Post by SGR Amber Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 20:31

Erm, actually, what happens at LM is you hit a small sausage kerb (Tetre Rouge) and your car flips... same way that races were ended by one of the outside kerbs at Sebring, a la F4H.
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Post by NSA Roca Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 20:51

Really? I haven't had that happen at all and I have hit a ton of Kerbs. But hey I guess you can prove me wrong in a week
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Post by SGR Amber Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 20:54

It's happened before with the kerbs I'm sure
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Post by HCR Motorhead Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 22:03

If you run sim then it's pointless to use anything BAR the Porsche or Toyota. I know your team would choose one of the pair and we'd end up with a spec series like GT is turning out to be.

This one is not on the organiser, this one's a game flaw.
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Post by xVampirAx Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 22:12

i used race in a series where BOP was a lot worse than this series,yet people still complain about the BOP for this series.each car will be better on different tracks but worse on others yet people are still not happy...
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Post by ShrinkingSteven Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 22:15

If people didnt complain about BoP then its not motorsport.
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Post by xebot360 Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 22:25

xVampirAx wrote:i used race in a series where BOP was a lot worse than this series,yet people still complain about the BOP for this series.each car will be better on different tracks but worse on others yet people are still not happy...

Yeah lol. The way it was going, we may not have had any builds until a day before the race so it could've been a lot worse

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Post by HCR Motorhead Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 23:06

Harmonic had them pretty much sorted ages ago... ^^
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Post by xebot360 Thu 2 Jun 2016 - 23:10

HCR Motorhead wrote:Harmonic had them pretty much sorted ages ago... ^^

Why didn't he post the builds up then. The most I was aware he had done was a rough guideline for restrictions

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Post by ROSCOEpCOTRAIN Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 0:11

ShrinkingSteven wrote:If people didnt complain about BoP then its not motorsport.
lol very true
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Post by ROSCOEpCOTRAIN Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 0:13

HCR Motorhead wrote:If you run sim then it's pointless to use anything BAR the Porsche or Toyota. I know your team would choose one of the pair and we'd end up with a spec series like GT is turning out to be.

This one is not on the organiser, this one's a game flaw.

.... if by his team you mean NSA.... we are in gt Laughing
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Post by HCR Motorhead Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 0:14

ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:If you run sim then it's pointless to use anything BAR the Porsche or Toyota. I know your team would choose one of the pair and we'd end up with a spec series like GT is turning out to be.

This one is not on the organiser, this one's a game flaw.

.... if by his team you mean NSA.... we are in gt Laughing

I thought you didn't like being overtaken Very Happy
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Post by ROSCOEpCOTRAIN Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 0:39

I'm at peace with where I am Twisted Evil
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Post by ROSCOEpCOTRAIN Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 3:01

HCR Motorhead wrote:
ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:If you run sim then it's pointless to use anything BAR the Porsche or Toyota. I know your team would choose one of the pair and we'd end up with a spec series like GT is turning out to be.

This one is not on the organiser, this one's a game flaw.

.... if by his team you mean NSA.... we are in gt Laughing

I thought you didn't like being overtaken Very Happy

awww your thinking about lil ol me Embarassed
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Post by andiosterfeld Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 10:48

would be nice to know which stints will be at night
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Post by ShrinkingSteven Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 11:10

^Okay so many things i have gotta do tomorrow lunchtime when im home.

Sort out quali thread.
Day/night stints.
Probably a million other things.

And revise for my exams......
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Post by HCR Motorhead Fri 3 Jun 2016 - 15:34

ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:
ROSCOEpCOTRAIN wrote:
HCR Motorhead wrote:If you run sim then it's pointless to use anything BAR the Porsche or Toyota. I know your team would choose one of the pair and we'd end up with a spec series like GT is turning out to be.

This one is not on the organiser, this one's a game flaw.

.... if by his team you mean NSA.... we are in gt Laughing

I thought you didn't like being overtaken Very Happy

awww your thinking about lil ol me Embarassed

Naturally Cheers
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