ISCC Meeting 2 - Advisory

Oh I wasn't on you GTR. It happens messing up lobby settings. None of us noticed it was wrong either.
I didn't know about smaller pit window being discussed sorry to bring up an old issue. I just figured the threat of a replay would make people think twice about speeding. It's the only way to make for certain it's a level playing field and that everyone abides by the rules (if speeding is enforced). I'd much rather go slow around there myself than risk killing my race and others as well. A lot of people just can't help themselves though

so maybe 80 for P1, 70 for p2 and 60 for gt2?[/quote]

Yeah sounds good or just 70 for everyone? it sounds unlikely but if a P1 pits at the same time as a GT2, you can probably imagine what will happen.

It's mandatory to call out your pit entry anyhow. Why a P1 would choose to pit behind a GT2 is beyond me? You get a clean pass if you stay out one lap longer. If a P1 comes out behind a GT2 he doesn't have a clear pass for quite some time on those cold tires.
Making a P1 go too slow would cause a wreck in pit lane as well. They turn in too hard at a low speed and would hit the inside wall wouldn't they? I'm not in a P1 just figuring from experience.

If we do instigate a speed limit, how are you proposing we police it? Other than watching the replay for every lobby from every driver's POV after the race, which you guys may have time to do, but I don't. (I often stick the replay on in the background whilst I'm doing the results after the race, but am not watching it closely).

Chucky 1982 wrote:I think most cars can make it without pitting...

Please don't take this as "you don't have to pit" though. Everyone must stop at least once.

ok i,m sorry to bring this whole issue up,it seems i may of jumped the gun a little bit,and is happy to abide by the rules,i,ve just tryed it once and crashed,so will be getting more practise in.

I'm off here for a bit though guys. Time to go get some sparring work in at the gym. I'll read whatever you're decision is later on but I'm all in for a speed limit if it is even discussed further.

Chris wrote:If we do instigate a speed limit, how are you proposing we police it? Other than watching the replay for every lobby from every driver's POV after the race, which you guys may have time to do, but I don't. (I often stick the replay on in the background whilst I'm doing the results after the race, but am not watching it closely).

So how was you going to punish anyone who doesnt take the pit lane in the correct way?

no this race has a mandatory pit stop, I was just saying that most can make the length and can pit 3 laps from the finish

PLOW Berty2d wrote:

Chris wrote:If we do instigate a speed limit, how are you proposing we police it? Other than watching the replay for every lobby from every driver's POV after the race, which you guys may have time to do, but I don't. (I often stick the replay on in the background whilst I'm doing the results after the race, but am not watching it closely).

So how was you going to punish anyone who doesnt take the pit lane in the correct way?

Like I said - Jamie's domain - not mine! As a lobby host, I'd be on the "look" (listen) out for anyone crying "foul", as a first point of call.

What your saying is its about trust, You trust people wont cheat and if they do you trust that someone else is going to tell you so you can trust that people are going to stick to the limit to make sure we all have a good race.

Pretty much. However I have seen people choose to break the rules before...

I've just tried the pitlane entry myself. Its easy for the prototypes to do about 80mph all the way round the tiny entry. GT cars will be a bit slower obviously.
But I think a more sensible speed around the entry would be 70mph I think so that accidents don't happen whilst entering the pits.

I really don't think there should be a set speed.

Basically, it should be, use that road and dont crash doing it. Surely we are all skilled enough to avoid being spat out of it.

I like the idea of using that pit entry, but the mandatory speed requirement is a bit overkill. It should be the drivers responsibility to not crash, however he sees fit.

i agree with nicky we should go as quick as we can, without crashing, until the pitlane speed line.

Good luck

can't believe I'm about to write this, but........+1 Nicky

ok then so here we go, use the pit entry lane to go into the pits, no speed limit set but advise would be 80 for P1, 70 for P2 and 60 for GT2 this is advice only, if you cause a crash by over cooking it going into the pit lane you will be punished, if you take the wrong entry into the pit lane you will get 5 seconds added to your end timer, I will watch all the replays and issue any penalties within 7 days after the race.

VVV Magictap wrote:can't believe I'm about to write this, but........+1 Nicky

Nicky whose not racing? Im sure your going to be fuming if someone takes you out. Cant see what anyones problem is your not gonna get round there much faster than that anyway.

I am racing.

Well, if all the drivers are cautious through the pit entry, we will be fine.

The reasoning behind using the first pit entry is good, it prevents people from using the second pit entry, which involves braking on the racing line.

No matter what we do, there is a massive risk of accidents at pit in. If all the drivers can be cautious and responsible, we will have no problemo.

Chill out people!

I'm "Racing", probably wont look like it on sunday though.

The issue wasnt what entry it was people using the first entry too fast and flying back across the track.

nickyf1 wrote:I am racing.

Well, if all the drivers are cautious through the pit entry, we will be fine.

The reasoning behind using the first pit entry is good, it prevents people from using the second pit entry, which involves braking on the racing line.

No matter what we do, there is a massive risk of accidents at pit in. If all the drivers can be cautious and responsible, we will have no problemo.

Chill out people!

Tsukuba for TORA's flagshp racing series, which means Mixed speed cars, on a narrow track, and a varying skill level (note to self: you are not near the top of this), and now we have to worry about how to pit-in.

If anyone survives this race without damage, they are so far above human.

I'm happy to run with or without a speed limit. I agree it should be the drivers responsibility to make it round the pit entry safely but then I also agree on a limit because I would rather not have someone going too hot into the pits, bouncing over the kerb and not only wrecking their car but mine too. It just sounds like the sensible option.

I'm down for whatever you decide.

Thing is, its a narrow entry, its on a turn, so through the laws of virtual physics alone there is a speed limit .