TORA Avon Tyres British GT Championship: General Discussion

I'm just here for the GT4s xD

Fazed Intro wrote:I'm just here for the GT4s xD

We don't have these "problems" haha

struggling to tune this Merc, lost like 1.4 seconds :/ cause it didnt save my original Tune

Wow. Those were the most childish three pages I've ever read. I'm not going to weigh in because someone will get butthurt and public humiliation will ensue, however I'm surprised at how we've acted as a community to this and how we've turned against each other over something really rather trivial. Let's just get on with this championship and enjoy ourselves...huh?

Mr Driv3 wrote:Wow. Those were the most childish three pages I've ever read. I'm not going to weigh in because someone will get butthurt and public humiliation will ensue, however I'm surprised at how we've acted as a community to this and how we've turned against each other over something really rather trivial. Let's just get on with this championship and enjoy ourselves...huh?

Amen!

If the real world was like this, then Nismo would have all the other LMP1 cars running at about 50% performance reductions to make the 2015 WEC fair for all.

Mr Driv3 wrote:Wow. Those were the most childish three pages I've ever read. I'm not going to weigh in because someone will get butthurt and public humiliation will ensue, however I'm surprised at how we've acted as a community to this and how we've turned against each other over something really rather trivial. Let's just get on with this championship and enjoy ourselves...huh?

100% agreed, and everything I have read trying to catch up is why I'm pretty sure I'm going to drop from the series. Could BOTH sides of each argument have handles things differently? Probably. I've wanted to weigh in on a few things in the past, but I'm usually pretty quiet and just "go with the flow". Whatever the community decides is fine by me. But that's where I see a big problem so far with this series. The "community" input has been largely dismissed. I also didn't want to voice my opinion because a lot of the issues have involved my team mate and I didn't want it to look like I was just taking his side. Trust me... I'm the first one to tell him to shut up and race, lol. But after seeing his comments treated like they have been, I was also "afraid" to speak up as well. Again, he could have also handled things differently, but I think the burden of patience goes on the series host. People are going to [Censored], but people are also going to make valid suggestions. Some suggestions come off as bitching and vice versa. As someone in charge of a series, you should want your series to be the best it can be. Sometimes you are going to miss things and the COMMUNITY will help remind you. Not every suggestion was meant as an attack, but they were all treated as if they were. And when they were, the only response was always "then why are you the only one saying anything?" 1st of all, that does not mean he is the only one thinking it, he is just the 1st one to voice his concern. And when the reaction is like it was, no one else wants to speak up. Personally, I'd like to thank some of the people that have had the courage to speak up and voice concerns. (And its not just one person) I had plenty of suggestions as well, but you guys were willing to put up with the backlash while I just sat back and said "well this sucks but what can i do about it". Hopefully a lot of mistakes will be corrected by learning from them during this series. I had hoped we could address as many as possibly before it started, because who knows how many new issues are going to pop up DURING the series itself. I think I will just wait for a few series on TORA to pass and hope all the kinks get worked out eventually. Here's hoping for a decent series soon on "the other racing site".

oh dang. sorry, the censored words are just a word for whining/female dog. my bad, didn't realize that was censored.

Flyin Mikey J wrote:If the real world was like this, then Nismo would have all the other LMP1 cars running at about 50% performance reductions to make the 2015 WEC fair for all.

True but this is only a game and you have the power to make things fair or unfair

Flyin Mikey J wrote:If the real world was like this, then Nismo would have all the other LMP1 cars running at about 50% performance reductions to make the 2015 WEC fair for all.

True but this is only a game and you have the power to make things fair or unfair

not sure what happened there, it messed up ^^

XPR Cap10Morgan wrote:

Mr Driv3 wrote:Wow. Those were the most childish three pages I've ever read. I'm not going to weigh in because someone will get butthurt and public humiliation will ensue, however I'm surprised at how we've acted as a community to this and how we've turned against each other over something really rather trivial. Let's just get on with this championship and enjoy ourselves...huh?

100% agreed, and everything I have read trying to catch up is why I'm pretty sure I'm going to drop from the series.  Could BOTH sides of each argument have handles things differently?  Probably.  I've wanted to weigh in on a few things in the past, but I'm usually pretty quiet and just "go with the flow".  Whatever the community decides is fine by me.  But that's where I see a big problem so far with this series.  The "community" input has been largely dismissed.  I also didn't want to voice my opinion because a lot of the issues have involved my team mate and I didn't want it to look like I was just taking his side.  Trust me... I'm the first one to tell him to shut up and race, lol.  But after seeing his comments treated like they have been, I was also "afraid" to speak up as well.  Again, he could have also handled things differently, but I think the burden of patience goes on the series host.  People are going to [Censored], but people are also going to make valid suggestions.  Some suggestions come off as bitching and vice versa.  As someone in charge of a series, you should want your series to be the best it can be.  Sometimes you are going to miss things and the COMMUNITY will help remind you.  Not every suggestion was meant as an attack, but they were all treated as if they were.  And when they were, the only response was always "then why are you the only one saying anything?"  1st of all, that does not mean he is the only one thinking it, he is just the 1st one to voice his concern.  And when the reaction is like it was, no one else wants to speak up.  Personally, I'd like to thank some of the people that have had the courage to speak up and voice concerns.  (And its not just one person)  I had plenty of suggestions as well, but you guys were willing to put up with the backlash while I just sat back and said "well this sucks but what can i do about it".  Hopefully a lot of mistakes will be corrected by learning from them during this series.  I had hoped we could address as many as possibly before it started, because who knows how many new issues are going to pop up DURING the series itself.  I think I will just wait for a few series on TORA to pass and hope all the kinks get worked out eventually.  Here's hoping for a decent series soon on "the other racing site".

I 1000.1% concur with what Jeff said.

We don't like getting pushed around as much as the next guy or team, even though we are attempting to make things better.

So I too am withdrawing my privateer entry from the series

You know something, all this Moaning and Whining about the Bentley, Brings me back to the Megane for TCC, Suck it up, and if i remember Correctly the Last TCC on FM4, HCR Mad Dog/ HaydieT won it in a BMW/Honda Civic Type R, yet the Megane was meant be the "OP Car" just suck it up and get on with it

It doesnt matter what car you use its how you use it, hayden is fast we all know that and im not sure what competition he was actually up against. but in this scenario its the fastest drivers in what i believe the fastest gt3 car with a rare edition of only 4 made

FMS TopSecret wrote:It doesnt matter what car you use its how you use it, hayden is fast we all know that and im not sure what competition he was actually up against. but in this scenario its the fastest drivers in what i believe the fastest gt3 car with a rare edition of only 4 made

I'm sure Creamy Tastey will be beyond pleased with someone saying he's "the fastest driver".

HCR Solar wrote:You know something, all this Moaning and Whining about the Bentley, Brings me back to the Megane for TCC, Suck it up, and if i remember Correctly the Last TCC on FM4, HCR Mad Dog/ HaydieT won it in a BMW/Honda Civic Type R, yet the Megane was meant be the "OP Car" just suck it up and get on with it

Hayden came close but didn't win it, or at least the season he fought it with CQR. But those cars were beyond a different animal lol

It's more a case of leniency. T1 is an area where cars do do wide and use the astro a bit.
As I posted before, continued or constant misuse of these areas will come under significant scrutiny. However, we appreciate that the odd occasion may result in a car going wide, or in the event of avoidance of another vehicle.

Ultimately, the rule is two wheels on tarmac at all times (within the white lines which define the track limits).
What we have tried to show here is areas where there is leniency as mentioned above.
This will perhaps come more into focus at circuits like Silverstone where there is significant tarmac run off areas which can be misused.

https://youtu.be/0xuej1v-TXA


Have a look at that its a real life gt3 race opening laps around olton they havent got any astro on any of the exits of the track

So in theroy the astro shouldent be used so i think the ruleing on 2 wheels on track at all time should be all corners

That's actually an excellent example of them NOT using it! It's also a little tough to see it from that camera angle.
If you jump to 6:44 on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDcLeTxm438 you'll see what I mean. There's a thin section to the left of the kerbing that does get used a little bit of an 'escape' if a car runs a bit wide. Most GT's seem to stay off it but with the BTCC mentality, I would expect some poeple to perhaps use it more than others, hence the leniency.

Jump to 3:10 on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF61l82aFj4 and you'll see a great illustration of what I mean

Btcc is the same they dont use it the astro isent there you can see it lol so if there is a kerb use these dotss for example

....... Thats how wide it probley is but on pcars its
................. Its like that so !!

Come on lol thats becuase they side bye side lol you find me a video where some one is on his own in a race and he uses that asto

I just think if turn one is exempt then it such an advantage