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Post by TJSteel Wed 13 Jul 2016 - 2:23

Big thanks to everyone who have tested the cars and came up with the builds, these are now official Smile



Last edited by HCR TJSteel on Tue 30 Aug 2016 - 20:47; edited 5 times in total (Reason for editing : Made Official and stickied)
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Post by DonatedSatyr227 Thu 14 Jul 2016 - 22:53

I predict many Z4 at Bathurst for the wrong reasons.
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Post by TJSteel Thu 14 Jul 2016 - 23:54

The British 1st wrote:I predict many Z4 at Bathurst for the wrong reasons.

Can you give a reason why this is?

If you have tested this among other cars please share your times with us, if you hadn't noticed already these are provisional builds, not official builds

The idea of putting out provisional builds is that with a limited number of people doing the builds, they may not be able to get everything out of every car,

If you can make a car go faster than another and the difference is great enough to make them unbalanced please share and we can resolve this before the race
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Post by RW26 BLAZE Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 0:06

I think to be onist, its best to keep the GTR out, they produce so much grip than a normal car
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 0:39

RW26 BLAZE wrote:I think to be onist, its best to keep the GTR out, they produce so much grip than a normal car

Hi there, I've spent over 12 hours putting this list together with others for TJ, and I assure you the GTR is not the car to be worried about.

*Note: I am just leaving for work, and I will post some more details when I return.
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Post by SVR Solar Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 1:31

ill put times ive done with the 3 cars i tested

Corvette:  Clean: 2:03:7 Dirty (Just by a smidge) 2:02:8

Mclaren: Clean 2:02:8 Dirty 2:01:8

Mercedes: 2:04:1 Clean, Dirty 2:02:9 ( it is possible to get this into the 2:02's Clean but it is alot harder then the other 2 tbh

there the 3 cars i have tested so far, ill give the other a bash maybe Saturday Smile
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Post by TJSteel Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 2:42

I've updated the bop sheet with the most recent builds, I cleared the times out of there too (still showing below under old builds)

Can you please confirm what times you have in the current builds, either in the doc or post it here and I'll add it for you
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 19:55

HCR TJSteel wrote:I've updated the bop sheet with the most recent builds, I cleared the times out of there too (still showing below under old builds)

Can you please confirm what times you have in the current builds, either in the doc or post it here and I'll add it for you

Thanks TJ, can you please link the Doc in the OP so people can see it? Also, the GTR needs a handicap on the doc. I can also help add times to the doc for anyone else who submits their times.
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 21:11

TechnologicMau5 wrote:
RW26 BLAZE wrote:I think to be onist, its best to keep the GTR out, they produce so much grip than a normal car

Hi there, I've spent over 12 hours putting this list together with others for TJ, and I assure you the GTR is not the car to be worried about.

*Note: I am just leaving for work, and I will post some more details when I return.

Lateral G's:

Dodge Viper (No Handicap)
60mph = 1.47
120mph = 1.73

BMW Z4 (No Handicap)
60mph = 1.50
120mph = 1.68

Ferrari 458 (No Handicap)
60mph = 1.46
120mph = 1.68

Nissan GTR (No Handicap)
60mph = 1.49
120mph = 1.74
(5% Front / Rear Grip Handicap)
60mph = 1.42
120mph = 1.65

I know the grip handicap doesn't directly apply to the lateral G's a car can handle, but it gives you an idea of the level of grip it does have with it's handicap.

I am also in the process of setting new times in every car after all the practice I have had with the initial testing, and you will be able to see there that the GTR is also not the biggest concern when it comes to lap time.
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Fri 15 Jul 2016 - 21:20

Also, when testing the Ferrari before, 300 Front Tyre Width was a better option, but I left it at 305 for the submitted build as it didn't change the PI, and people could easy sneak in the upgrade. But on the #62 Risi Ferrari, the PI changes.

So can we update the Build to the #62 Ferrari with 300 Front Tyre Width please?

2014 #62 Ferrari 458 Italia GTLM
Race Brakes
Race Driveline
300 Front
325 Rear
Pi 833

I also forgot to update the McLaren, and the build should have less tyre width.

2011 #59 Mclaren GT 12C GT3
Race Brakes
315 Front
330 Rear
Pi 832
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Post by TJSteel Sat 16 Jul 2016 - 17:26

updated builds and put the doc in the thread
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Post by LMR MountainMan Sat 16 Jul 2016 - 17:54

HCR TJSteel wrote:updated builds and put the doc in the thread
The Nissan needs 10% Power / 5% Front & Rear Grip Handicap
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Sun 17 Jul 2016 - 2:58

LMR Ascari wrote:
HCR TJSteel wrote:updated builds and put the doc in the thread
The Nissan needs 10% Power / 5% Front & Rear Grip Handicap
And the Ferrari needs to be changed to the other car.
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Post by TJSteel Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 12:10

sorry, thought I'd updated the Ferrari, updated both,

Can we make this final by the weekend?

Going to aim for opening registration Saturday, that way it gives people a week to register before quali opens
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Mon 18 Jul 2016 - 19:40

I'll make sure to have a fresh set of times in this week.
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Post by LZR Harmonic Thu 21 Jul 2016 - 3:08

The Huracan could be added if you want. Race brakes and one rear tire width, 841 PI, 10% power.
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Post by TechnologicMau5 Thu 21 Jul 2016 - 21:09

I just finished clocking in fresh times. The Ferrari is still ahead for me, and the build should probably be adjusted to 315 Rear Tyre and a PI of 831. I clocked 124.391 with this build, which puts it right in place.

PS. I noticed as well that the Ferrari should be GTLM now, not GTE
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Post by VPR Torque Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 21:44

At what point are these gonna become final builds
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Post by CTM AnonCaliga Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 22:00

FAA xXNutterXx wrote:At what point are these gonna become final builds

Was just thinking the same.
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Post by PTG Chungus Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 23:13

FAA xXNutterXx wrote:At what point are these gonna become final builds

When the group balancing the builds have finished finalising them and bought them closer 😊

So we don't have a repeat of LeMans with a BMW so far ahead it can stop for a midnight McDonalds
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Post by F4H Hakkinen Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 23:19

Who is balancing them?
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Post by PTG Chungus Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 23:27

Pass
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Post by LZR Harmonic Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 23:40

The Pit Crew has made these builds, but they're provisional because anyone can test them and suggest changes if they find an issue. If the builds are fine with everyone, they'll be finalized shortly.

Make sure to test the Huracan and add it if it fits.
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Post by Diablo 29x Sun 24 Jul 2016 - 23:52

Nissan GTR needs help. I'm in the 2:03s with everything except that car

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Post by LZR Harmonic Mon 25 Jul 2016 - 0:26

F4H Diablo wrote:Nissan GTR needs help. I'm in the 2:03s with everything except that car

I agree; however, there isn't a great deal we can do with all 4 buckets occupied. I tried changing it to 10% power and 5% grip on only one end, but the Aston nearly got a 2:00.9 like that. I think the cars in that bucket could afford tires if they have any to add, as they're in mid 2:02s whereas everything else save the Z4 can do a 2:01. I haven't tried the Ford, though.
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