Championship Discussion

WOOP WOOP! Love it!

(Check me out being all racey.... and the Accident where you use my rear view as a camera car is just inspired! )

Great job mate!

I'm afraid of the oval races turning into wreck fests

C'mon guys, you know fine well how dangerous turn 2 at Sedona is.

Ah what is that music or where is it from its bugging me now

which music?

Metallica St Anger. With compulsory annoying snare drum

Last night was so much fun!

To have Four of us seperated by just 0.005 Seconds in Qualifying was unbelievable! (even if it did cost me a place in A-Lobby! )

The Race was fun too. I had a Great launch from the second row of the Grid and stayed out of trouble for most of the race, also had some great bump drafting from sbiggs which put us so high up until it went wrong and a bump on the straight pitched him round

Luckily for me the big 3 car train that followed me, including a resurgent sbiggs didnt have enough time to catch me after the big gap created by me and sbiggs and i got the Lobby Victory!

I was chuffed to bits!

Replay is in my Storefront and im working on some highlights.....

God I am mega gutted about last night

Still great fun!

Afraid i wont be making it to tomorows Race (The race is too long for my still recovering hand to cope with and I hate the Track so im going to see some REAL stock cars instead )

Hope you have fun! I wanna see pleanty of pictures guys!

>hate road america




who's racing tomorrow? and who's gonna pass 3 wide going into canada corner?

i would if the rules followed the real thing more closely. Oval Pi's at Road courses? no thanx. i was overjoyed when this series was announced, but if if its not going to follow the Real thing, im out!!

At times Switch, you have to remember that this is being run on a game, not in real life, and as such, it is sometimes necessary to do things slightly differently in order to play to the strengths of the game and maintain the enjoyment factor. A good example of this is the car list for the Super GT series. We found after extensive testing that, instead of sticking to the Jap' GT cars as originally planned; using a varied mix of GT sports cars gave a much more exciting race, and therefore stands to benefit the series. A move like this is something that would likely never happen in real life but can easily be achieved using the game.
It was felt after testing that the stock cars ran perfectly well on road courses with a stock setup, and this would remove the hassle of checking that people were sticking to build rules and not gaining unfair advantages through tuning. The series is now truly "stock" cars, and I would expect anyone here who likes a challenge, and wants to prove themselves, would relish the chance to race in a series where the best driver wins.

maybe so, but wouldn't a 'Sense of realism' be key? i can understand the problems it causes to allow any modifying (some people can only be trusted so far), and i can blame Turn10 for not splitting up 'Force Stock Upgrades' and 'Stock Tuning' (should have been 'Default Tune' maybe) further from where they are at now. And im still a little miffed about the '3 car' Safety Car rule.

Re: the safety car rules; I just checked the Regulation Clarification thread and found no specific response from AJ or other staff regarding the issues raised from Race 1. I'll try to catch up with AJ and/or Matt in the morning to see if I can get a firm yes or no on this.

The way I would expect any change to work, is that it will remain the same "3 car" rule for road courses as this is proven to work, and deters reckless manoeuvres based on the asumption that any failed move will result in a safety car to undo the penalty of going off-road. Then, for ovals, I would like to see a change to something along the lines of a safety car after a "serious incident", involving any number of cars, including a solo car.

Because we obviously only have 8 in a lobby and the penalty is worse for a couple of cars going off on ovals I'd hope to instigate that sort of rule for tonight and keep the racing closer.
Probably best to trial it tonight and see what comes of it. I'm at work until 6.30pm earliest so grab Duncan and explain my decision.

El presidente speaketh!

Cheers Matt.

Um, we are on a road course here, three car rule will definetally apply....

im now curious as to the testing that was done Aero. i probably wasnt around for it cuz of the time difference, but i just took the stock PI and 'no-restrictor' PI's to Road Am, and the STock netted me a low 2:02, and without the restrictor netted me close to hitting a 2:00.9xx. were times close to that? Also, this Default Tune Turn10 put on these Stock Cars makes me believe the Final Drive was set for SuperSpeedways as even without the restrictor at Road America, 4th gear is nearly useless. my best way to counter Turn10's lowsy gear tune, was to reset the final drive to 3.30 (similar to production cars' race Final gear). And that was all i changed on the tune. i used that on a Road Am tune i created, but seeing we're going with the Stock PI, my tune isnt needed

The cars feel pretty good around there anyway, and everyone needs to deal with the same gearing, so it should be fine.

yeh it doesnt matter if your faster without the Restictor bacause everyone will be resticted so we will all run the same lower times rather than mass fluctuations of Faster times.

If thats not enough for you may i show you Exhibit B: