MSA TORA ISCC Europe Round 2 - Camino Extreme 5/2/2012

Apologies for getting this up late.

Rules and Regs
http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t6974-tora-msa-iscc-season-3-rules-and-regulations

Top 3 in points by class are as follows
LMP-
1- ATR DAN
2- CQR Berty2d
3- F4H Bullet

LMPC-
1- F4HMOPAR001
2- PpR YT Rice
3- JustOZ71

GT-
1- Ianmr
2- TrooperR6
3- Rollin InAn STi

Post In if you are attending this race, this is also the discussion thread so feel free to do so.

Also, attached to this thread is a poll. This is to determine the starting point of the race.

Start 1:


Start 2:


Japan (Suzuka, Tsukuba, Motegi, Acura Chassis and Engine)


Russia (LADA Engines from ISCC Asia)


Italy (Mugello, Lamborghini, Ferrari)


Switzerland (Bernese Alps)


France (LeMans, Oreca)


England (Silverston, Lola, Aston Martin, Jaguar and Members)


Scotland (Members)


Dominican Republic (Members)


Mexico (Members)


United States of America (ISCC America, Ford, Chevrolet, Panoz, Members)


Wales (Members)


Canada (Members)


Ireland (Members)


Germany (Nurburgring, Hockenheim, BMW, Audi)


Spain (Host Contry, Mont Serrat, Catalunya)

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not bad with 5 beers down! there eh hoser?

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Previous discussion on this can be found in this thread:

http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t6991-suggestion-for-the-start-at-round-two-camino-veijo-extreme

Only 5! Considering the fact that these are probably American beers and this is your birthday, you should be finished your first 24 already!

oh and...


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Duke of Bruno wrote:Only 5! Considering the fact that these are probably American beers and this is your birthday, you should be finished your first 24 already!

oh and...


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I got home from work at 5, and didnt start drinking until 6 and it's all Guiness tonight and the tally is at 8 now

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Guiness

Duke of Bruno wrote:Only 5! Considering the fact that these are probably American beers and this is your birthday, you should be finished your first 24 already!

he's american, not australian...

ok both start points have issues here,

start1 narrow sweeper that can cause issue

start 2, long straight leading into a single file chicane that if one person goes off the sticky asphalt takes over and could cause a huge pile up

either way both are just as dangerous as the other just a matter of which one do the majority thinks is the lesser of two evils

gen3ral ts0 wrote:

Duke of Bruno wrote:Only 5! Considering the fact that these are probably American beers and this is your birthday, you should be finished your first 24 already!

he's american, not australian...

HA!!!! (quick laugh)

Louis wrote:ok both start points have issues here,

start1 narrow sweeper that can cause issue

start 2, long straight leading into a single file chicane that if one person goes off the sticky asphalt takes over and could cause a huge pile up

either way both are just as dangerous as the other just a matter of which one do the majority thinks is the lesser of two evils

i think start 2 would be marginally safer...as it will give time for the LMP's to pull away from the GT's even just a little bit.

I'm with travis here. Start #2 would be a safer start point.
Edit: there is a start/finish line closer to the hairpin of the Iberian section Conner. The Start/Finish line you snapped a pic of is what's used for Iberian Short & Mini variants.

But I'm OUT for this round

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Mark wrote:I'm with travis here. Start #2 would be a safer start point.
Edit: there is a start/finish line closer to the hairpin of the Iberian section Conner. The Start/Finish line you snapped a pic of is what's used for Iberian Short & Mini variants.

But I'm OUT for this round

in but agree with Mark

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start one every time.

start #1 for me. i dont think 8 lmp1's bunched up at 180+ mph all trying to go flat out throught the chicane is a great idea. just my opinion.

oh and im IN

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More questions from me:

1 - Per ISCC rules we must make our first mandatory pit stop before 25 elapses; is there any restriction on how early we can make our first stop? At Camino, if we start at the 2nd start line, it is possible to pit before we complete a single lap. Also, how would any ruling on this affect other tracks where the start line is the start line?

2 - Do we have any guidlines for the pit entry at Camino? Staying between the white lines does slow us down going in so that we do not shoot straight through, but, the final turn into the pits is quite narrow and makes it very easy to damage our aero because of a little mistake (it could also cause a pile up if there is a car entering the pits close behind another car that clips that corner and ends up sideways in the pit entrance). There is a large patch of asphalt at the pit entry that allows for a straighter and easier pit entry, but, it allows us to blow into the pits at high speeds.

3 - Do we have any guidlines for the pit exit at Camino? Lets face it, the pit exit is kinda stupid as it throws us out on to a very fast part of the track. Calling out when leaving the will at least eliminate the surprise factor, but, is there anything else we should be doing?

1. I'm not sure about if there is a limit to how early you can pit, although I would say you can't pit on the first lap, regardless of where the start line is.

2. As soon as you get to where the asphalt widens, pull off to the side where pit entry is and brake so that you don't accidently skip over your pit.

3. The safest method would probably be to call out when you start leaving the pits (when the car starts moving again) and when you are about to regain control of the car.

Out. Id rather be anywhere but here.