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Post by Wooflers Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 22:16

Please use this thread as an open forum for discussion!

- Car builds (or still stock)?
- Changes to qualifying/race format?
- Special tracks?
- Length of races?
- Points system (this will change for S2, if more people are interested)

Anything, go for it!


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Post by FSR Groves Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 22:23

You should make the cars have Race Suspension, Roll Cage, Race Tyres (or any other tyre).. etc etc. make the cars look more racey!

I think the qualifying and race format is good enough atm.

Adding more races to the calendar might be good.. Rally Di Positano anyone? Wink

I probably won't do the whole of next season, but I'll aim to do the odd race.

Glad I could lay the foundations for this series, it seems to be a great hit! Hope all the other drivers enjoy it as much as i do! Smile Well done to you Bli33ard for smooth organisation! Smile Cheers Poop
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Post by JAMIE ANDERS0N Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 22:32

Standing starts like tcc,

Race length is good, 2 race format is good.

Racy stuff on the cars or sports stuff to make it still no tuning
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Post by CreamyTastey Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 22:48

V8 Twin Turbo charged, Race bRakes, Race rollcage, big tyres, and a BIG Turbochrger
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Post by CQR Rogue Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 23:07

JamesHall94 wrote:V8 Twin Turbo charged, Race bRakes, Race rollcage, big tyres, and a BIG Turbochrger

this Smile
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Post by Slider S15 Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 23:18

Maybe Renaultsport Clio V6's next time? still completely stock but a different kind of challenge
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Post by JAM FULLMAN Wed 24 Apr 2013 - 23:30

This is tech spec from clio cup uk:
Race Rollcage
Aero - diffuser, rear spoiler
Weight 1060kg
Race breaks
Slick tyres
Speedline Alloys
Front suspension: Blisden Shocks, H&R Springs
Rear suspension: programmed deflection, torsion beam, Blisden shocks
Race Gearbox (6 Speed)
clutch - Single Race
Differential - limited slip
4cyl 16v 1998cc engine
Box race ignition
205hp max
Have'nt tried it on a car yet tho...
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Post by Richy59 Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 0:22

I made a build! Forgot to write it down though :/

Will check it tomorrow, was mainly Sports Stuff and a few Race parts but there is zero tuning ability on the car apart from tyre pressure.
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Post by Ax4x Chaddy Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 0:29

Slider S15 wrote:Maybe Renaultsport Clio V6's next time? still completely stock but a different kind of challenge

THIS
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Post by Wooflers Thu 25 Apr 2013 - 0:32

I done a bit of Clio V6s and yes, it sounds great. Richy, we'll sort it out.

Season 2 might not be that far away Smile Basically I want to get Season 2 done by end of June. So end of May ideally it will start... will need a host for one week as I'm at Download Festival and will miss one
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Post by JAM FULLMAN Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 9:44

hi, me and stan put the clio uk spec on the 197 and it took it to 506 pi. it handles nice! looking forward to any of it!
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Post by xDEM0N L0RDx Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 13:30

Start at 10 BST?
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Post by TheAngryPudding Fri 26 Apr 2013 - 14:02

The current format has meant we've gone from 9 entries to 20 in a week, I'd be reluctant to change anything to be honest. However, if you were to push me for a suggestion, stock upgrade and stock tune Clio V6 and possibly start at 9. That's the only things I'd say

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Post by Wooflers Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 8:52

Start time may/may not change if there is enough demand. 9PM if anything, but we won't be changing anything for this season.
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Post by BG Wingnut396 Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 11:11

was thinking you could change the format of the racing slightly by making race 1 results reversed grid order for race 2 to make it a closer and more competitive comp
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Post by Morne in Glory Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 11:12

I like that idea
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Post by FSR Groves Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 11:15

I do too! Would certainly mix things up a bit!
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Post by xDEM0N L0RDx Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 11:22

Could ya start later? Like 10 Bst
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Post by TheAngryPudding Sat 27 Apr 2013 - 12:08

Love that idea wingnut

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Post by JAM FULLMAN Sun 28 Apr 2013 - 13:37

BG Wingnut396 wrote:was thinking you could change the format of the racing slightly by making race 1 results reversed grid order for race 2 to make it a closer and more competitive comp
Yes I'm liking the sound of that reverse grid for race 2. Also fellas as there maybe more than one lobby could overall race time be taken into account to give those in B lobby who managed a better overall race time than someone in A lobby their correct race place finish position?. It gives those in front in B lobby more to fight for, seems fairer and more accurate because we often see in real racing drivers have a problem in qualifying but come from the back to finish on podium.
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Post by Wooflers Sun 28 Apr 2013 - 16:58

My view on reverse grids:

I am more than happy to do this, but as we saw in the GTs there were a few cases of sandbagging at the back in the first race to get pole for the next race when they finished last - and it's been proven that you give yourself the best chance possible to attain more points than someone who is unaffected by the reverse grid (if that makes sense). Two options:

Option 1: There are two races, Race 1 as normal, Race Two the top half is split and moved to the back, so grid will be finishing positions of 6-7-8-9-10-1-2-3-4-5 for example. Might be a bit more complicated...

Option 2: Three races per race meeting, then results of race two are reversed completely for race three. I prefer this, Clios don't take a long time to complete either, so fitting in three races shouldn't be an issue!

It's looking likely that we'll use Clio V6s for next season with non-tunable upgrades. FASTERRRR

XLR8 wrote:Also fellas as there maybe more than one lobby could overall race time be taken into account to give those in B lobby who managed a better overall race time than someone in A lobby their correct race place finish position?

This is an interesting proposition, but it could become a hot lap sesh for a leading front runner in a lower lobby and they'll just sail away with no obstructions. Yes they may have the pace to possibly get onto the podium in Lobby A, but that defeats the importance of qualifying really. I know what you mean though. Maybe we can introduce a longer qualifying session (10 minute qualifying? rather than laps?).

xDEM0N L0RDx wrote:Could ya start later? Like 10 Bst

I don't want to have to move the start time if I can help it, especially if we introduce another race in the meeting, I know you're in Oz and I want to accommodate as many people as possible :/
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Post by TheAngryPudding Sun 28 Apr 2013 - 17:12

I like the idea of the Clio v6s so long as its set upgrades and no tuning (although enforcing would be difficult?!)

I'll almost certainly be back for the whole of S2 and hopefully at least one of Uniform and jgroves will be too. Otherwise ill be looking for a second driver to team up with

I'd be inclined to say with races keep it at two, longer qualifying, use the random number generator on the forum to select the number at which the grid is reversed after race one has finished. No benefit of sandbagging in race one as you may miss out anyway.

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Post by TheAngryPudding Sun 28 Apr 2013 - 17:15

As a further thought, as we're now pushing towards two full lobbies, perhaps allowing people to continue using the current spec cars could be an option? Possibly in their own lobby at the same start time but the more stock format might continue to encourage new people in

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Post by Wooflers Sun 28 Apr 2013 - 17:20

mjg36 wrote:As a further thought, as we're now pushing towards two full lobbies, perhaps allowing people to continue using the current spec cars could be an option? Possibly in their own lobby at the same start time but the more stock format might continue to encourage new people in

This is what I've been debating (with myself, in my board room room) There seems to be a trend on TORA at the moment for stock racing, and it's great! It definitely appeals to suckas like me who can't tune accurately & want clean, quick and easy racing. Timing also isn't an issue as it should take no longer than half an hour to get some sort of paint done at the most. I suggested a two tier system (this works well in real life Ginettas G30/G40? something like that, where the open wheel cars are slower). But then again if we want it to be similar to the Clio Cup then they don't have tiers Smile
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