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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 22:09

Are we even still trying to work in the SLS? It seems that it was left for dead quite a few posts ago.


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Post by TG Wormburner Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 22:21

The Audi is horrific, it doesn't have near the grip as other cars (or as it says) and you are correct on the SLS it will not work. You are always better removing something that won't work than sticking a subpar car in. The McLaren was somewhat close on Catalunya but doesn't have any balls with the old build. I'll try to run it if you'd like.

The '07 Civic, Megane, and maybe the SEAT need a slight reduction in performance. Just a tad bit too quick.

The Mazda's wouldn't work when we did early testing and that's why they were removed. The Mustang and the Camaro are too powerful. The '08 Subaru is a piece of crap.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 22:29

Worm, may I ask if you tested both RX8s? I too tried the standard car, and it was bad, Volvo bad. The R3 I tried for the first time the other night and it is much better.
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Post by TG Wormburner Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 22:39

That was a long time ago. I don't remember
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Post by TG Wormburner Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 23:18

Built up an '07 Civic and an RX-8 R3 for comparisons sake. Both cars have similar speed, handling, and accel stats. The RX-8 has 12 more hp than the Civic and was 2 mph slower down the hangar straight despite the aero being turned all the way down.

5 laps in the RX-8 and did a 2:00.8
First flying lap in the '07 Civic I do a 1:59.6 and quit.
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Post by Guest Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 23:35

Going to focus on the GT spec rather than the TCC spec as not sure if it is worth mixing up even more knowing with the way we have it now it is pretty much balanced.

Tuning on these GT spec cars varies, I know the first two handle better because I spent a lot more time working on them to suit my driving style, the Audi I am still an amateur with.

Mercedes SLS GT3: 1.51.8
McLaren MP4-12C GT3: 1.51.6
Audi R8 LMS: 1.52.0

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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 11 Aug 2013 - 23:51

^ How do those times compare to GT2 cars, such as Corvette, BMW, Porsche?
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Post by TG Wormburner Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 0:05

So the McLaren has no adjustable brakes and no wheel upgrades?
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 0:45

I'd imagine Race Brakes would be on the upgrades list... but I am wrong alot.
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Post by Guest Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 0:59

TG Wormburner wrote:So the McLaren has no adjustable brakes and no wheel upgrades?
I ran the car's to spec as stated on the first page, with the 15% reduction during a testing lobby on my own, however I do feel they all need Race brakes in the upgrade list.

Mercedes I just ran to last years N8 spec.

And Mikey I am not sure as havn't tried any of the GT2 cars, going to throw the Vette, Ford and Viper round shortly, most likely in the morning after iv had a few hours sleep, not needed into work till around 4 so have some time to put some laps in with these.

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Post by TG Wormburner Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 3:15

I'll test tonight/tomorrow. Need to be running in the 49's for myself. I was running low 49's in a couple cars for ALMS at VM and the builds are pretty much the same. Only the wheels are different.

The Lamborghini is better with 15% power handicap and restrictor removed. It's equal with quite a few cars that way and has better race pace. Without the restrictor removed it has zero race pace and gets mauled. I would 100% move it.


EDIT: 49.8 in the McLaren and it's a little loose. I think it's okay but it may be a little fast, not absolutely sure. I'd nix the Audi and SLS.
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Post by Richy59 Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 6:52

So, just for clarity because I am offshore.

Audi is too heavy to fit in and it a bit of a pig.

Mercedes seems to work at base power with grip, but just a bit too slow compared to the rest.

McLaren with build noted in OP is a little too quick.
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Post by Guest Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 10:45

Haha so all 3 cars are pretty much out of the pack, one being too fast, another too slow, and the third would still be lugging it off the line. Smile

Personally i'd say keep the Audi and the McLaren if we can find a way to keep them competitive.

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Post by CQR Rogue Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 10:59

Hmmm tempted to not include them now we have tested.

Richy what you think its a month to race really want to get car list released so not having 3 cars is not a biggy.

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Post by LMR DarthMario Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 11:08

i will try some of the GTE's after work tonight to see how the times i ran in the SLS and R8 compare.
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Post by TG Wormburner Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 13:50

I don't know if it's too fast. I ran it and it seemed okay but if I started messing with the tune and such it could possibly be too fast. My time was only a few tenths slower than my qualifying time and with a power handicap I can't see a ghost to know if gearing adjustments would make a difference, if a different line is better, etc. I do know those few tenths are in turn on on their own. I screwed it up every single time.
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Post by Richy59 Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 15:00

Maybe test up until Friday, then we can make a decision Duncan.

How about shaving some of the Tyre Width off of the McLaren? I'll have a look at a few testing times I know of and see how it compares.
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Post by LMR DarthMario Mon 12 Aug 2013 - 23:17

for the MP4, i hit a 1:50.732 with the build on page 1 (plus Race Brakes), and a Default tune! now to test some of the GTE cars in my garage
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Post by TG Wormburner Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 0:27

As a comparison to DarthMario pole in ALMS on Silverstone is 1:58.4 I believe by Takumi or Amarth. There was around a tenth between them, Takumi was in the BMW and Amarth in the Lamborghini with the build I posted. Koenigsegg was in a BMW Z4 and Bob Dixon in a Panoz Esperante. All cars were very even.

Remember Darth was in a default tune while we practiced. I believe the McLaren is just too quick. May want to take the speed on the hangar straight as well and note it.
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Post by LMR DarthMario Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 0:47

here's what ive done so far tonight. eye lids getting heavy, so will tackle the other cars tomorrow

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Post by ShrinkingSteven Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 0:50

LMR DarthMario wrote:for the MP4, i hit a 1:50.732 with the build on page 1 (plus Race Brakes), and a Default tune! now to test some of the GTE cars in my garage
I'm not a stupidly fast guy but I did set a very low 1:50 in a Pi 765 Porsche a few months back? So I guess its balanced towards current GTE cars?
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Post by CQR Rogue Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 9:12

Yea Richy will make decision Friday
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Post by Guest Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 12:40

Is there no way of dropping the other 2 cars, but keeping the McLaren with a more balanced build?

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Post by CQR Rogue Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 13:00

Can we run times for MP4-12C with less wheel width and get a build with slower times please?
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Post by TG Wormburner Tue 13 Aug 2013 - 21:49

[Censored], I think I ran the wrong tune on Silverstone in that Honda for the time.

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