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Post by JAMIE ANDERS0N Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 12:01

Hey mate.

From the next event I will incude on the sign in what format to put for Subs

FYI

Just post

HLR GURU (subbing for Shafter 316)

in the form.

Thanks for the heads up now.
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Post by Ax4x Chaddy Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 12:37

BG Chucky 82 wrote:
Kilroy8 wrote:I thought it was always based on the Forza track limits. So getting a clean lap, despite running wide, is acceptable due to the nature of the circuit. It's a bit of a grey area, like turn 1 at Indianapolis GP.
Erm no, to quote a quote (taken from the TCC Rules and Regulations

The track limits are determined by the solid white lines either side of the track. At all times, two wheels must remain on this part of the circuit, unless of an occurrence where it is near to impossible to keep two wheels on the track, like avoiding a collision. During a race meeting, each time the track limits are not adhered to, a warning will be given. Each driver are allowed five warnings of all four wheels leaving the track via the inside of a corner, at any part of the circuit. If a sixth and subsequent "corner cutting" occurrences happen within a race meeting, then that driver will lose a position for each corner cut. Again, if a corner is cut to avoid a collision, this would not be given a warning.

The track limits must be adhered to in the event of gaining an advantage whilst having an on-track battle. If a driver overtakes a driver by getting all four wheels off the track, the driver must give that position back before they may continue the race. If the driver which was overtaken backs off heavily either through incident or "mechanical" failure, then the position will not need to be given back.
Turn 1 at Indy has always been cut I remember the 458 races we did lol.
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Post by Ax4x Kane Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 12:40

Well the stewards are gonna have a hell'uva time tonight, watching every cars qualifying laps and the races themselves.
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Post by JAMIE ANDERS0N Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 13:01

I think the differance between Tskuba and Indy is you know your running wide at Tskuba where as you cant see the line at Indy untill your on it. I tried many times not to cut at Indy on Sunday and failed but I never run wide at Tskuba as I ease off when i know its going to far.
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Post by F4H Lotterer Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 13:32

We shouldn't need to monitor the laps as everyone knows to respect the track limits , if it is reported to us that someone is using it to gain advantage then we shall investigate .
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Post by Amarth Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:00

It kind of sucks being fed justice for a 'past' event based on a 'new' rule book.

You have openly acknowledged something wasn't quite right with the replays, and im the first to welcome the
new rule, it clarifies a lot of things. But i can't let this go knowing some people now have penalties and some don't when
initially there was quite a lot of jump starts according to your 'replays'

I've now ended up with a penalty from a warning i didn't technically receive last round, i never got a chance to say to myself
'[Censored] jay, just start a little later, you have a warning now' you sirs have robbed me i tell you Mad 

If you wanted to be 'fair' this rule should of been implemented to start at Tsukuba.

Evil or Very Mad 
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Post by JAMIE ANDERS0N Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:11

The rules have changed into your favor, you should have been given a 10 place grid drop, you jumped the start twice and only got 1 5 place grid drop to your name.
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Post by Amarth Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:21

BG Chucky 82 wrote:The rules have changed into your favor, you should have been given a 10 place grid drop, you jumped the start twice and only got 1 5 place grid drop to your name.
I think i know that, you can give me a 20 place penalty for all i care, your missing the point. Some people now have the chance to undo their wrongs, they have an actual warning unlike some people Rolling Eyes
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Post by Ax4x Chaddy Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:36

TG Amarth wrote:It kind of sucks being fed justice for a 'past' event based on a 'new' rule book.

You have openly acknowledged something wasn't quite right with the replays, and im the first to welcome the
new rule, it clarifies a lot of things. But i can't let this go knowing some people now have penalties and some don't when
initially there was quite a lot of jump starts according to your 'replays'

I've now ended up with a penalty from a warning i didn't technically receive last round, i never got a chance to say to myself
'[Censored] jay, just start a little later, you have a warning now' you sirs have robbed me i tell you Mad 

If you wanted to be 'fair' this rule should of been implemented to start at Tsukuba.

Evil or Very Mad 
I agree that the rules should kick in a Tsukuba, but its done now so we best move on
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Post by Ax4x Kane Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:37

You jumped twice, therefore effectively using up your '2 warnings' warranting a 5 place penalty.
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Post by Beanz Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:41

Are we going to be using these rules for the Mclaren cup also as that has the same start procedure?
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Post by F4H Lotterer Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:42

Yes the previous penalties applied in the mclaren cup will be amended.
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Post by Amarth Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 16:52

Kilroy8 wrote:You jumped twice, therefore effectively using up your '2 warnings' warranting a 5 place penalty.
I wasn't given 'cautionary advice' though was i. Oh sorry i was, 2 weeks later Rolling Eyes
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Post by Ax4x Kane Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 17:00

I don't mean to sound rude but what do you expect should happen? You still jumped the start, I know the rules have changed but that doesn't mean that everyone's penalty should be wiped.
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Post by Amarth Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 17:11

Kilroy8 wrote:I don't mean to sound rude but what do you expect should happen? You still jumped the start, I know the rules have changed but that doesn't mean that everyone's penalty should be wiped.
Quite a few people jumped the start 2 weeks ago, now most of them get away scot free, not exactly fair now is it.
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Post by F4H Lotterer Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 17:23

the rules themselves havnt been changed a jump is still a jump but we just had to move the goal posts to allow for the errors that the replays provide us.

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Post by Amarth Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 17:29

BG Trash McNish wrote:the rules themselves havnt been changed a jump is still a jump but we just had to move the goal posts to allow for the errors that the replays provide us.

So it's ok to penalise just a few and not all of the jump starters from 2 weeks ago?
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Post by Turbo Power 77 Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 17:37

Ok I've got lost in the forums trying to find out what's happening with the jump start penalties. Can someone clear it up for me so I know for tonight?

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Post by Ax4x Kane Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 17:43

Simply, don't set off before the designated time Smile
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Post by JAMIE ANDERS0N Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 18:23

D4RR3N 3579 wrote:Ok I've got lost in the forums trying to find out what's happening with the jump start penalties. Can someone clear it up for me so I know for tonight?
Check

http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t11128p20-msa-tora-tcc-season-8-stewards-results#254065
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Post by Ax4x Cowboy Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 18:52

Kilroy8 wrote:Simply, don't set off before the designated time Smile
You make it sound so easy! lol! 
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Post by HCR Bellmond Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 19:16

Im out tonight guys!! Been a long day and a long drive!!
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Post by Slider S15 Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 19:34

Just had this text from my girlfriend:

"Good luck tonight, No hitting anyone out got it"

Anyone would think I'm starting to get a reputation....
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Post by Simon 0ne Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 20:00

signed in but no invite yet Suspect

edit:thanks tubbi for the invite


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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Tue 1 Oct 2013 - 20:16

This NAT conflict issue is starting to put me off. When I host there is no issue for anyone. When I dont I cant race.
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