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I don't disagree that Kimi would be the fastest one out there, I just don't want to see that go to waste when he is told to back up the Audi behind him rather than keep racing. Davidson is incredibly quick, but that doesn't really matter when he's being told to drive slowly and get in the Audi's way.
I hope Rossi makes it to Le Mans at some point with any team. If Ferrari ever do get back into prototypes, they could do a lot worse than Rossi and Fisi driving the car.
I hope Rossi makes it to Le Mans at some point with any team. If Ferrari ever do get back into prototypes, they could do a lot worse than Rossi and Fisi driving the car.
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Rossi wont go to lemans unless someone is willing to pay a stupid amount of money. Rossi has no reason to go there. Yes he may have done some road racing in the past but he may have said "i've done that no need to do it again." and that has happened before, he did 2 stages of a world rally race in... oh yes a Pug 207 but since then has he done rally? not that i have heard of, and when was the last time he tested a Ferrari F1 car? not for a while so as much as I would love to see him at LeMans myself, there's just no reason for him to go there. And I hope he proves me wrong
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Who got fired by Peugeot?narboza22 wrote:lfcnicklfc wrote:Kimi Raikkonen will be testing a 2009 Peugeot 908 HDI on Wednesday, if he races in the Pug next year Audi are screwed haha
I hope Kimi won't be replacing any of the works Peugeot drivers that got canned after this year's race. I really can't see him being that much of a team player going along with how they run the 3 works cars.
If they got him, Loeb, and someone like Valentino Rossi in a 4th car tho, run by Oreca or somebody, they would be unstoppable.
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no one yet but Pedro Lamy would be the most likely
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lfcnicklfc wrote:no one yet but Pedro Lamy would be the most likely
AYE!?!?! Lamy is damn quick in the car Peugeot wouldnt release him in their right mind otherwise you're garunteed to see a 4th Audi pop up
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From the RLM guys said, Lamy got canned half way through the 24 hours, and they aren't that happy with Wurz either.
edit: didn't post half of what I meant to say: Rossi never struck me as someone who was that obsessed with money, at least not as much as Kimi is/was. That might just be because everyone is always willing to pay for his talents. If Ferrari wanted to put him in a sportscar, I'm sure they would have no trouble footing the bill, and once he retires from MotoGP, why not take a stab at Le Mans? Its not like he's going to have anything better to do and he is certainly talented enough for it.
edit: didn't post half of what I meant to say: Rossi never struck me as someone who was that obsessed with money, at least not as much as Kimi is/was. That might just be because everyone is always willing to pay for his talents. If Ferrari wanted to put him in a sportscar, I'm sure they would have no trouble footing the bill, and once he retires from MotoGP, why not take a stab at Le Mans? Its not like he's going to have anything better to do and he is certainly talented enough for it.
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narboza22 wrote:From the RLM guys said, Lamy got canned half way through the 24 hours, and they aren't that happy with Wurz either.
edit: didn't post half of what I meant to say: Rossi never struck me as someone who was that obsessed with money, at least not as much as Kimi is/was. That might just be because everyone is always willing to pay for his talents. If Ferrari wanted to put him in a sportscar, I'm sure they would have no trouble footing the bill, and once he retires from MotoGP, why not take a stab at Le Mans? Its not like he's going to have anything better to do and he is certainly talented enough for it.
No doubt he's talented but i believe he has someone he's coaching up the Junior ranks of Motorcycle racing already so I think his plans are set but plans can always change or be put on pause for a little fun.
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A few weekends out of the year shouldn't be too difficult for him. I just want to see a day-glo yellow prototype.
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raikkonen at spa now thats a race id watch! hope he gets a drive
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I think RLM might have coverage via the ACO feed but am unsure. Don't even think Eurosprout are showing it
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nope, no live coverage except timing/rlm
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wut.
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Is it just me, or did the GTEAm F430s sound different than they used to? They sound a lot more subdued like the 458s do rather than the screaming noise they used to make.
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Its not just you. I believe its all down to noise regulations.narboza22 wrote:Is it just me, or did the GTEAm F430s sound different than they used to? They sound a lot more subdued like the 458s do rather than the screaming noise they used to make.
And I understand the randomness, but I found this frankly astonishing image on the internet:
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Lame, its a race, their shouldn't be noise regulations. And is that from last years Petit?
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narboza22 wrote:Lame, its a race, their shouldn't be noise regulations. And is that from last years Petit?
It is pathetic. And no, its from Le Mans 2009 I believe
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Is Le Mans that hilly around the track?
Also, I woke up and my power was out so I missed the first 45 minutes of the race Anything exciting happen yet?
Also, I woke up and my power was out so I missed the first 45 minutes of the race Anything exciting happen yet?
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2012 ACO Technical and Sporting Regs changes
In 2012, the safety of all prototypes will be reinforced, and the equivalences between the different engines powering the LM P1 cars in the Le Mans 24 Hours, the FIA World Endurance Championship, the Le Mans Series and American Le Mans Series will be readjusted.
Following the undertaking given after the 2011 Le Mans 24 Hours, the Automobile Club de l’Ouest and the FIA have worked together to modify the Le Mans 24-Hours regulations which, in keeping with the agreement signed with the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA), form the basis of the rules governing the future World Endurance Championship.
Three main areas were at the centre of the discussions:
1. The equivalences between diesel and petrol engines
In this context, the ACO and the FIA carried out a wide-ranging study to analyze the performances of the cars, and then to decide on the appropriate measures to be taken. A number of tools were used in the context of this survey: readings by timing systems specially installed at Spa-Francorchamps and at Le Mans, some of which the teams entered for the Spa-Francorchamps 1000 km (7th May 2011) and the Le Mans 24 Hours (10-11 June 2011) were unaware of, the information provided by the data loggers installed on the cars this year and all the times recorded on the different circuits.
In addition, the engineers were contacted and asked to provide under guaranteed secrecy all the technical information about their engine.
Finally, all these data and analyzes were restudied, interpreted and validated to calculate the new equivalences.
Results
All the refuelling equipment will have the same flow.
No modifications will be made to the petrol engines.
The performance of the diesel engines will be pegged back by around 7% by decreasing the size of the air restrictors and the supercharger pressure. The diameter of the restrictors will be reduced from 47.4 mm to 45.8 mm for engines that have a single restrictor, and from 33.5 mm to 32.4 mm for those engines that have two. In addition, the supercharger pressure of the turbos will be reduced from 3 000 to 2 800 milibars.
The fuel tank capacity of diesel-engined LM P1 cars will be reduced by 5 litres (65 to 60 litres).
2. Safety
Following the accidents in this year’s Le Mans 24 Hours the ACO and the FIA have had fresh discussions, and have carried out new tests to improve the safety of the cars, the first priority of the FIA-ACO regulations. The following measures will come into force for the 2012 season.
After the work carried out by the FIA Safety Commission with the manufacturers/constructors the dorsal element on the engine cover, the shark’s fin, will become mandatory on all LM P1, LM P2 and FLM prototypes and openings will be made above the front and rear wheels.
To improve rearward visibility (with the exception of the LM P1s), the size of the rearview mirrors will be increased, and they must be equipped with a night mode as well as an electrical adjustment system that enables the driver in the cockpit to alter the rearview mirrors to meet his needs. The camera system at the rear will be mandatory on LM GTE cars and allowed on all the others.
3. Hybrid engines
The release of energy is allowed on the front wheels but only above 120 km/h. Safety measures concerning the specific brakes for hybrid engines have also been defined.
Sporting regulations
This extract is taken from a document called “Sporting guidelines 2012 FIA World Endurance Championship.” The complete sporting regulations will not be announced before the 30th November 2011 after the next meeting of the Endurance Commission scheduled for 21st November 2011.
As previously announced, the FIA World Endurance Championship - in partnership with the ACO - will comprise a minimum of six events, including the “Le Mans 24 Hours”. Apart from this event, the duration of the races will be six to 12 hours. The Championship is exclusively reserved for Le Mans Prototype (LMP) and Le Mans Grand Touring Endurance (GTE) cars, although vehicles using technologies considered to be innovative may be admitted without scoring points.
FIA World Endurance Championship titles will be awarded to the champion drivers and manufacturer (reserved for the LMP1 category). In addition, a World Cup will be awarded to the winning LM GTE Manufacturer (including Pro and Am), as well as FIA Endurance Trophies to the winning teams in LM P2, LME GT Am, LM GTE Pro and best private LM P1.
For all events other than the Le Mans 24 Hours, points will be awarded according to the following scale for all categories:
1st 25 points
2nd 18 points
3rd 15 points
4th 12 points
5th 10 points
6th 8 points
7th 6 points
8th 4 points
9th 2 points
10th 1 point
And 0.5 point (awarded to any car classified lower than10th in the general classification)
For the Le Mans 24 Hours only, these points will be doubled.
In each category an additional point will be awarded to the car on Pole Position and each driver of its crew.
For 2012, the number 1 will be attributed to the manufacturer having won the 2011 LM P1 manufacturers’ title in the 2011 Intercontinental Le Mans Cup.
Vincent Beaumesnil, the Automobile Club de l’Ouest’s Sports Manager: “Every year we progress by carrying out analyses to establish the equivalences between the different engines. The groundwork carried out with the FIA demanded in-depth research. Our main objective was not to put everybody on an equal footing in terms of performance (lap times), but to define the true potential of each of the competing technologies. In terms of security the work carried out in collaboration with the FIA and the manufacturers – who made a decisive contribution to our research – will reinforce safety even further. I can only say that I’m delighted with the efficient and rapid technical teamwork between the ACO and the FIA.”
Sir Lindsay Owen-Jones, FIA Endurance Commission President: “The closeness of the collaboration between the FIA, its Endurance Commission and l’Automobile Club de l’Ouest, his highlighted by the excellent work that has been undertaken by all parties since the announcement of the new FIA Endurance Championship on June 3rd. This bodes well for a successful 2012 season when technical innovation will marry with sporting excellence to provide a memorable inaugural championship for so many fans and industry stakeholders."
The entrants in the Le Mans 24 Hours, the FIA World Endurance Championship and the various Le Mans Series have all been informed of these modifications to the rules. They will come into force at the first event on the 2012 calendar reserved for cars complying with the ACO technical regulations governing the Le Mans 24 Hours.
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Good news there pegging diesels back, Toyota back for 2013 (either Dome) or the ex f1 base factory effort in Germany.
Cough Cough rumours all the time
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Confirmation of something we pretty much knew already.
http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/10/14/toyota-confirms-lmp1-programme-for-2012/
http://www.planetlemans.com/2011/10/14/toyota-confirms-lmp1-programme-for-2012/
Toyota Confirms LMP1 Programme For 2012
Toyota will compete in the Le Mans 24 Hours in 2012 with a new hybrid power sports car. Its return to the world’s most famous endurance race will be with a new LMP1 chassis designed, developed and produced by Toyota Motorsport in Germany, equipped with a hybrid petrol powertrain engineered by Toyota in Japan.
Participation at Le Mans will be one of a number of races Toyota proposes to enter in the 2012 FIA World Endurance Championship, a competition that will enable it to further explore the potential of its world-leading hybrid technology.
The new team will be based at Toyota Motorsport’s Cologne headquarters and it is expected that the new car will be rolled out early in 2012 for an extensive pre-season testing programme. Further details about the team will be announced later.
Tadashi Yamashina, Toyota Motor Corporation Senior Managing Officer and Toyota Motorsport Chairman, said: “Toyota has entered Le Mans before, but by using our hybrid technology this time will be a completely new challenge. We want to write a new chapter in the history of the Le Mans 24 Hours, as in the FIA World Endurance Championship, through our use of hybrid technology.
“In addition, we aim to learn from the experience of competing in such a challenging motorsport environment to enhance our production car technology. Le Mans is a legendary race and I would like to thank the ACO and the FIA for their constructive and positive co-operation over the last few months.
Toyota Motosport’s award-winning engineering services and all its current motorsport projects are unaffected by the announcement of the new racing programme and will continue as before. Toyota hopes the new enterprise will provide further impetus to Toyota Motorsport’s successful business development.
Toyota last competed in the Le Mans 24 Hours as a manufacturer in the late 1990s racing the GT-One, a car which famously established a new race lap record in 1999.
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