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Post by LZR Harmonic Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 21:27

I can post replays if you like. But like I said, I work an hour past the start of each race. I'd love to participate, but I can't.
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Post by Windcharger8199 Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 21:33

1:29.653.  -Old Gearing

1:29.950 - New Gearing

Gearing is better thanks to Hurricane but the backend still wants to come around under braking on Entry into medium to high speed corners.  Only 1-2 Corners that I have that problem at Sebring.  Still need to do some tuning to the car.

Plus I have no idea what I am doing wrong. I have splits for a 1:29.4XX going into the final corner at Sebring and I loose all the time I gained the entire lap plus more. Do I need to change my steering locks. (Inside is 24, Outside is 95) or is it my driving style.
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Post by PLOW tubbi Sat 22 Feb 2014 - 23:05

Windcharger8199 wrote:

Gearing is better thanks to Hurricane but the backend still wants to come around under braking on Entry into medium to high speed corners.  Only 1-2 Corners that I have that problem at Sebring.  Still need to do some tuning to the car..

Raise the spring height a bit front and back, then make sure the differential is affecting the acceleration only, decel should be zero.
If it still persist's stiffen the front anti roll bar slowly whilst trying it until it's comfortable.
Another way to solve it is putting race brakes on and slowly shifting the brake balance to the rear, sounds weird but it works.

Or you could just go for the drift points and have a good laugh Razz 
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Wed 26 Feb 2014 - 7:50

Now steady in the 1:27.4s, and have seen a 1:27.0xx. I can't see picking up much more than that.
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Post by JVanEssen Thu 27 Feb 2014 - 16:15

What is the official ruling on track limits at Sebring?  Is it as long as its not dirty or do we need to to keep two inside the lines at all times?

If so how will this be policed?

edit: When following the specified track limits I am getting solid 1:28.6s. Out of bounds but still clean is 1:27.9s
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Post by SCR3WUGUYZ Thu 27 Feb 2014 - 22:41

Running 1:27.9 i feel i could get to a 1:27.2 or so if i got through the last corner and entrance to back stretch right.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 2:08

JVanEssen wrote:What is the official ruling on track limits at Sebring?  Is it as long as its not dirty or do we need to to keep two inside the lines at all times?

If so how will this be policed?

edit:  When following the specified track limits I am getting solid 1:28.6s. Out of bounds but still clean is 1:27.9s

Laps must be clean by FM4 standards in qualifying, otherwise you get a /!\, and will be considered slower than the slowest clean lap.

In race conditions however, the TORA track limits rules come into play: a minimum of two wheels inside the track limits at all times.

I've found a variable of up to maybe 4 tenths of a second between the two "track limits" rules. So expect much quicker laps in the race than qualifying.  Wink 
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Post by JVanEssen Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 4:06

[quote="Flyin Mikey J"]
JVanEssen wrote:


In race conditions however, the TORA track limits rules come into play: a minimum of two wheels inside the track limits at all times.

I've found a variable of up to maybe 4 tenths of a second between the two "track limits" rules. So expect much quicker laps in the race than qualifying.  Wink 

Wait don't you mean the other way around?
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 6:02

Two wheels on the track is quicker than the 4 that FM4 requires. Much quicker.

I found a couple 1:26.7s and 8s tonight, but there's no way I can hit them without a /!\ popping up.
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Post by theboomeranga Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 7:09

Holy sh*t I'm doing bad
1:30.8 was my best
How am I 4 seconds slower than mikey
Usually we're bumper to bumper!
Tuning help please!
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 7:57

Bradley, this is what happens when I get a bit of practice. Doesn't happen often, but every once in a while I find pace.
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Post by JVanEssen Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 8:04

Flyin Mikey J wrote:Two wheels on the track is quicker than the 4 that FM4 requires. Much quicker.

I found a couple 1:26.7s and 8s tonight, but there's no way I can hit them without a /!\ popping up.

Wait now Im even more confused.  Your saying that you go quicker in the first and last turns without going way past the white and yellow painted lines?  

Just to clarify here.  At turn one apex if your right up against the wall you will not get a /!\ but you are way past the lines.

Also the last turn most guys I've seen will go two and three cars widths over the white line on the brakes or hug the wall.  Both lines then track out against the tire wall on the front straight.  All of those things culminate in massive times savings without getting a /!\ but technically are way off the track.

These photos are all taken on clean laps. Meaning no /!\.
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Clearly way past the track limits. I am assuming this is a glitch in the game but what I am asking is are we allowed to take advantage of this glitch or not.


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Post by hilli182 Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 8:50

after a rebuild an re tune in my civic coupe im down to 1.28.4s, how the hell 1.26s are possible is beyond me haha, good going mickey
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Post by PLOW tubbi Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 8:57

ErebusV8 wrote:Holy sh*t I'm doing bad
1:30.8 was my best
How am I 4 seconds slower than mikey
Usually we're bumper to bumper!
Tuning help please!
Send me a copy of your car, cost you my badge on all sides
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Post by theboomeranga Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 9:03

That's fine I'll pay for the logo haha

i sent my tune as well
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Post by PLOW tubbi Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 17:34

tune done and sent.
1.26.2 in it
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 17:36

JVanEssen - My interpretation of T1 and 17 is pavement. The places that you pick up time w/ two wheels off are the T2-3 hairpin complex and heading onto the bachchute.
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Post by JVanEssen Fri 28 Feb 2014 - 18:25

Ok thanks for clarification. This track Tskuba are the weird glitch tracks and I like to clarify first. See you guys in a bit.
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sat 1 Mar 2014 - 4:12

hilli182 wrote:after a rebuild an re tune in my civic coupe im down to 1.28.4s, how the hell 1.26s are possible is beyond me haha, good going mickey

I am utterly shocked and embarrassed. Instead of going to "Select a Tune". I just grabbed what I thought was the car with the proper tune on it for today's Q session. Instead of a rocket tuned for Sebring, I grabbed the rock I used at Sunset. That put me solidly in the B Lobby, with an A Lobby car.

But I made the most of race day and had quite a fun time chasing down and passing cars in both races.
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Post by theboomeranga Sun 2 Mar 2014 - 3:39

39.987 at sedona
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 2 Mar 2014 - 7:19

Solid 40.00s-40.2s, with the occasional 39.something between wallshots.

I reckon that there's gonna be some wreckin.  Poop 
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Post by PLOW tubbi Sun 2 Mar 2014 - 8:43

ErebusV8 wrote:39.987 at sedona

Using the tune I sent?
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Post by HCR Wizard Sun 2 Mar 2014 - 11:27

41.9, yay to having no clue about speedway tracks regarding tune or build! B lobby here we come!

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Post by v Hurricane v Sun 2 Mar 2014 - 11:37

Turn 2 wall here I come!!!  Shocked 
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Post by Ax4x Mikey J Sun 2 Mar 2014 - 16:28

TheCheekyWizard wrote:41.9, yay to having no clue about speedway tracks regarding tune or build! B lobby here we come!

VW Golf? Yeah, about that... when I tested all the cars at all the tracks, it seemed a great choice until I took it here to Sedona. I don't know why its so slow here, just seems a bit hopeless.

On the flip side, it should be interesting to see how th eCRX and Celica get along at Road Atlanta and Infineon.
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