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Post by CQR Rogue Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 15:56

lfcnicklfc wrote:I've been very impressed by Di Resta ever since the first race at Australia, however last two races he's been a bit too over eager and needs to reign it in a little bit and then he'll be world class!

Probally thinks his force india is a tough as his DTM car was.

Great Race and Plus 1 NickyF1 Smile
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Post by narboza22 Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 18:39

johnnyboy360 wrote:You know what, I'm done expressing my opinion. I've said what I've wanted to say and it seems cos I'm only 15 I dunno what the [Censored] I'm talking about so leave it. You all know I hate Vettel cos I'm sticking up for my British racers and I know most of your opinions, which is that most of you don't like Hamilton. You all say Hamiltons driving style is bad. Did no one see what Ayrton Senna said, "If the gap is there and you no longer go for it, what's the point in it all." Hamilton does exactly that.

narboza22 wrote:http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/motorsport/formulaone/8546595/Lewis-Hamilton-apologises-for-post-race-insults-at-Monaco-Grand-Prix.html

The last thing I'd like to add to the topic. That article is right that if Senna was around he would encourage Lewis's style of driving, but I do not think that its accurate to say he is emulating Senna.

In Senna's case, he was absolutely unrepentant about his actions on track. He explained his point of view calmly and always stuck to his code of driving. He is now considered the greatest ever despite the flak he got at the time.

Schumi has displayed similar levels of ruthlessness and has always been cold and consistent about it, although not as open and forthcoming as Senna. He is statistically the greatest driver ever.

With Lewis, he drives aggressively and people love him for it. The problem I see is that he can't keep a level head afterwards when people criticize him. After Monaco, had he simply said yes, I accept these penalties, but given the chance, I would do the same thing over again, and will continue trying to win as hard as possible, people would not have had a problem with that.

Hamilton is a great driver and his style of racing would be amazing if he could get through races without shooting himself in the foot. He used to be able to do this, and there is no reason that he shouldn't be able to do it now, but: Hamilton was great in 2007 and 2008 when the McLaren was a great car. He was great in 2009 because the car was so bad that he didn't really care and he could just go out and enjoy himself. In 2010, he started to crack when the McLaren never really caught up to the RB's pace. This was probably made worse by the fact that McLaren out developed every other team on the grid and were still slower and that Button is completely unfazed by how fast Lewis is over a single lap. Now in 2011, I would make the case that Lewis does not know what to do with a car that is not the best on the grid. He is trying to force the issue rather than just driving around it. You can just as easily say that Lewis's talent lies in his car as much as you can say the same about Vettel.

I mean, he is the best overtaker on the grid, racing at a track that is overtaking friendly, and in the wet. This is the perfect recipe for a guy like Hamilton to win had he just given it time. Canada was a 70 lap race, but Lewis didn't have any patience and ended up hitting Webber, almost coming together with Schumi, and then getting taken out by Button at the very beginning of the race. Button was able to go from last to first, surely Hamilton has to realize that if he chilled out a bit he would have been able to do the same.
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Post by Ax4x Chaddy Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 18:49

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Post by johnnyboy360 Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 19:07

I thought Schumi was gonna be on podium! But nethertheless, he drove amazingly well and it just shows Mercedes can develop a great car.

Di Resta is actually a great driver. I believe if he gets a good team, like Ferrari, he would probably win the championship.

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Post by narboza22 Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 19:13

FranchittiFan wrote:1st pictures of kubica since crash

http://www.fakt.pl/Kubica-wraca-do-zdrowia-Pierwsze-zdjecia-po-wypadku,galeria-artykulu,106167,7.html

Could be back for brazil

Ouch, that doesn't look like he will be race ready in 5 months. I think if I was Renault, I wouldn't let him race this year even if he is healed. Let him get healthy again and stick him in a GP2 car to test for a couple of months over the winter so he is back up to speed and knows that he is physically able to drive the car before preseason for 2012 begins.
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Post by nickyf1 Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 23:06



WINNING! (0:18)
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Post by nickyf1 Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 23:14

Chad, keep pressing 6 on the above video.
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Post by F4H FACEPALMER Wed 15 Jun 2011 - 1:44

johnnyboy360 wrote: You all know I hate Vettel cos I'm sticking up for my British racers

lol case closed
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Post by HCR generaltso Wed 15 Jun 2011 - 7:58

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my face when hamilton and button touched
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Post by Matt Wed 15 Jun 2011 - 8:19

At least they used Jensons proper voice for that ad unline the old Loreal Schumacher ones which had some deeply spoken dude dubbed over Michael's Germanic tones Razz
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Post by johnnyboy360 Wed 15 Jun 2011 - 10:24

nickyf1 wrote:Chad, keep pressing 6 on the above video.

LOL, good one Nicky!

AAR FACEPALMER wrote:
johnnyboy360 wrote: You all know I hate Vettel cos I'm sticking up for my British racers

lol case closed

Lol, thank god!

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Post by nickyf1 Wed 15 Jun 2011 - 12:22

0 - Cleaning Jenson
1 - Parking Jenson
2 - Windswept Jenson
3 - Uncomfortable Jenson
4 - Serious Jenson
5 - Naked Jenson
6 - Jenga Jenson
7 - Taking a photo of Sexy Jenson
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Post by Guest Thu 16 Jun 2011 - 13:48

anyone seen this before?


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Post by Ax4x Chaddy Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 15:37

Seeing senna film 2moz! whos seen it?
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Post by nickyf1 Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 15:39

Probably going to see it at some point, yeah.
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Post by nickyf1 Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 16:33

Why spend billions on building a track in the middle of nowhere, when you could easily upgrade Watkins Glen..

DC has a great point about the concrete sections providing really good grip for the F1 car, even in the wet.
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Post by F4H FACEPALMER Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 22:10

I love Tony Stewart, I really hope Hamilton takes up the offer to drive at Stewart's dirt track next year that race is always awesome.
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Post by Richy59 Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 22:24

Brilliant, it makes me really wish they had kept that style of F1 car. Really cutting edge looks and tech and we have taken a step back with the new regs.
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Post by HCR generaltso Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 22:40

tony can drive the wheels off of anything.

i guarantee you he could have mixed it up with those cats in F1 in the early 2000's and late 90's
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Post by nickyf1 Fri 17 Jun 2011 - 23:24

Oh yeah. Great talent.
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Post by CQR Rogue Wed 29 Jun 2011 - 11:53

Another points less story on the BBC F1 sites, F1 engines to become less noisy - read the story and I picked this as the best comment, what has F1 done for the road car industry nothing.

Role on the Indy Car regs!


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At 09:11 29th Jun 2011, Markj161 wrote:

I think the 1.6 litre turbo era would be good for Formula One, the road car industry and the wider environment...

...Formula One must stay relevant to the road car manufacturing industry so we can all benefit from lower emission engines which sustain better fuel consumption."

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You have to love ecomentalists. Never looking at the real picture.

The 1.6l 6 pot turbos will be no less polluting than any other race car.

The jets they use to fly the circus around the world put out more emissions than the cars do over the weekend, in fact you or I put out more emissions each and every day through travelling to/from work than an F1 car does. And big business has more of a carbon footprint than anyone, how many companies leave the lights on, heating, PC's on etc. when no-one is even around to use them?!

And since when has F1 ever been relevant to road car manufacture? All the innovations in road cars have come from other quarters, very little of what is done in F1 has ever filtered down to road cars. ABS, Traction Control, airbags, seatbelts, for example all came from manufacturers doing things other than racing in F1, tire technology in F1 also has no relevance to the road car, if it did we'd all be shelling out for new tires each time we even drive the car out of the garage, and if engine technology in F1 ever had any relevance to racing we'd all be driving round in our little boxes with screaming V8s, V10s and V12s, most cars are in fact 4 or 6 pots!

The cars that race in Le Mans run by the big manufacturers do more to further engine fuel efficiency than F1 has ever done.

About the only thing that F1 has ever given us in road cars is the flappy paddle gearbox, and even then it's debatable if it's any good, and is mostly only available on higher end cars, and even then I'm fairly sure that the flappy paddle gearbox was being developed well before F1 even got hold of it...

No offence meant but you really do need to stop believing what the media departments of the car manufacturers and teams in F1 are telling you.

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Comment number 21.At 10:00 29th Jun 2011, samthemanf1 wrote:
agree with matt apart from vettel runaway this year last few champoinships under frozen engine rule has beeen brilliant. .. maybe sucess ballast is an option?

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Comment number 22.At 10:06 29th Jun 2011, ravenmorpheus2k wrote:
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Not sure how a 650bhp v6 could possible sound bad. Different I grant you, but bad? Hmm

At #14 I feel you're missing the point. The brief for the new engines included making the format attractive to current and possible new suppliers. Relating it to their road cars and the marketing potential therein is the tactic. No one's denying this. If no one wants to build teams engines then F1 is in trouble. Like it or not F1 needs to keep the big manufacturers interested as few others will have the resources to build/develop such units. Making it more relevant to road cars is the obvious solution."
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I am fully aware that F1 wants to attract new suppliers, and no I don't miss the point, but the point that I was making is that people like Andrew Benson try to hide what is the actual truth - that it's purely a marketing exercise, behind the claims that it's based on efficiency and being green!

Lets call a spade a spade, the car manufacturers are financially stretched at this time, they are involved in F1, and they see it as prime advertising real estate - saying that the engine changes are being done to to make F1 greener and more efficient is pure BS.

Even claiming that these engines will ensure F1 is relevant to road cars is stretching the truth a bit because F1 has never been relevant to the boxes we all drive from A to B in.

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Comment number 23.At 10:09 29th Jun 2011, david wrote:
im up for the new turbo engines as it will finally give some uncertainty on the cars again. also it may be time for bernie to finally step down and let someone else takeover

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Comment number 24.At 10:14 29th Jun 2011, hackerjack wrote:
The only people who care one jot about engine sounds are the die-hards who will still go anyway. The casuals (Bernies target/growth market) do not really care about that.

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Comment number 25.At 10:19 29th Jun 2011, Susanna_Reid_is_nice wrote:
I wonder what the teams would do given a free choice?

1.6 litre V6 turbo
2.4 litre V8 atmo

#18 mentions the turbo v atmo period of the late '80s. That was a poor transition period. Those atmo cars were woefully slow in comparison and only artificially strangling the turbo cars brought the racing closer.

I would be happy with V6 turbos for all teams.

As stated in my comment to a previous Blog, the current cars are also artifically strangled and not nearly as impressive sound-wise as they were before the current rev limit was imposed a couple of seasons ago.

There is a synergy with road cars here. In the 1980's pretty much every self-respecting high-performance road car had a turbo, or two ;-)

During the 1990's - 2000's they fell out of favour, but driven by the diesel development and the possibility of reduced emissions, they are now back in vogue again. So let's bolt a couple on to a V6 1.6 litre and see what it can do!

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Post by narboza22 Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 9:00

Anybody have a BBC stream of FP1?
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Post by nickyf1 Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 12:06

try www.justin.tv for FP2.
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Post by narboza22 Fri 8 Jul 2011 - 12:09

http://sportstream24.com/f1/watch_online_4.php

I found a BBC stream on channel 4 here.
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