MSA TORA GT General Discussion

i am starting now! Dun dun dun!

PLOW Champion wrote:...what if we could at least get it down to 2, Fast, Average?

Not being funny, but doesn't that then make the old "average" cars the new "slow" cars?!? I would say I'm currently in an "average" car, but if you suddenly boost the slower cars so they're on pace with the "fast" cars, I'm suddenly in a "slow" car.

Plow champion did you try a power build?

well yes, but at least they wont be a few seconds off. If we could get in under a second and less i am thinking happy days, because What people have to remember is every car has its strong tracks. The average cars will be the power cars that dont have the grip, were you go to sebring that will be there strong track

Duncan wrote:@ Ian the GT500 was my qucikest car followed by the TVR!remember its not just 1 person driving style when we had the test group we had 12 plus ppl testing cars not staff but community racers, worm, biggs etc can vouch we tested all cars to be equal as possible over a variety of season tracks.

The Lambo and the Ford are a low PI because they were so much quicker than everythink else at a higher pi, however yes like Worm said we are open to changes upon data submission

Thanks all

Can you send me your tune please?

Catalunya

Cars	PI	Time	Tune?
Ferrari F430	625	1.49.116	Good
Ferrari California	625	1.49.578	Very Basic
Gallardo	605	1.49.031	Good
TVR Sagaris	625	1.49.312	Average
Shelby GT500	635	1.50.521	No Tune
BMW M3 E92	630	1.49.563	Good
Lotus Evora	620	1.49.373	Good
370z	620	1.48.845	Good
Porsche Sport Classic	615	1.48.784	Good
Aston DBS	620	1.49.523	Good
BMW Z4 2008	625	1.49.243	Good
BMW Z4 2011	630	1.49.764	No Tune
Corvette Grand Sport	625	DLC	No Tune

Road Atlanta

Cars	PI	Time	Tune?
Ferrari F430	625	1.22.216	Good
Ferrari California	625	1.22.445	Very Basic
Gallardo	605	1.21.976	Good
TVR Sagaris	625	1.22.521	Average
Shelby GT500	635	1.22.798	No Tune
BMW M3 E92	630	1.22.116	Good
Lotus Evora	620	1.21.912	Good
370z	620	1.22.054	Good
Porsche Sport Classic	615	1.22.096	Good
Aston DBS	620	1.21.959	Good
BMW Z4 2008	625	1.22.383	Good
BMW Z4 2011	630	1.22.914	No Tune
Corvette Grand Sport	625	DLC	No Tune

The other cars will be added soon!
All these times were run in 3laps with limited damage!

PS - If this gets accepted i am happy to post the builds of the cars so the community can use them!

I have just managed to do a 1..51.050 in the GT500 at 635, happier with that.

No way it will get into the 49s tho

Fine with everything but the Gallardo and Ferrari's. The Ferrari's could go to 620 and I wouldn't have an issue. The Gallardo at 605 though and there is a car switch on the horizon

Ash, would you mind testing the Aston out the Aston too?

I disagree with the GT500 and TVR needs upgrading. Both me and Duncan find them super-quick. The Ford I always believed to be too low of a PI but Worm disagreed, and I'm impartial to the Ferraris.

Biggs can you please come show me how fast you are going in the GT500?

Also bear in mind that Catalunya isn't the whole season. I was quickest at Nurburgring with the Mustang at 5PI lower thanks it's current PI. If it goes up to 635 then it would be unbeatable in the right drivers hands.

Ianmr wrote:Biggs can you please come show me how fast you are going in the GT500?

Sure, but it'll have to be about 9 as I'm at work.

Well at Nur I was 4 seconds slower than the nearest car to me last night and at Catalunya I am still way slower by. Although I guess that is to be expected as I am not the fastest driver but in the right car I am every bit as quick as you and duncan, faster some times.

Think I am missing something with my set up????

Right now I have the M3 built to 615 but I am no good at tuning so before my team mates start diving into it I want to make sure we have the best build possible. When do you think any changes will be made, if at all?

My testing time at Nurburgring in the GT500 was 1.59.5

Hey all,

Thanks for the feedback, A group descsion within the Summer GT team will be made over change in PI over the weekend so please continue to give feed back but we are looking into changes as requested over this weekend

VVV worm wrote:Fine with everything but the Gallardo and Ferrari's. The Ferrari's could go to 620 and I wouldn't have an issue. The Gallardo at 605 though and there is a car switch on the horizon

you say this though worm! Not being big headed but i am running that at my best Clean. Not many people will get it this fast! The porsche is still 3 tenths faster in my mind and the 370z is a tenth aswell. They aren't as fast as the porsche because you can change the build a lot. The reason i have got them at 625 is so you can have a little play around with the build, like put the weight back in it and more power were you drop it 5 PI you wont be able to do this because you can't change the wait

EZT Ash wrote:Ash, would you mind testing the Aston out the Aston too?

Yh i shall do

simonbiggs wrote:I disagree with the GT500 and TVR needs upgrading. Both me and Duncan find them super-quick. The Ford I always believed to be too low of a PI but Worm disagreed, and I'm impartial to the Ferraris.

I would love to see you do this! The GT500 isn't fast! I even run it round road atlanta and it isn't as fast as the M3 which is the fastest by a tenth!

simonbiggs wrote:My testing time at Nurburgring in the GT500 was 1.59.5

I will go do a few laps and see what i can do, it may just be my tune.

But the car at 635 just feels so much better with the fhat tyres, and no disrespect to anyone that is in one, but I get the feeling it wont be a lobby A contender even at 635.

Also Duncan can you send me your tune?

Hey Ian no probs

i have updated the table with the porsche and nissan

simonbiggs wrote:Also bear in mind that Catalunya isn't the whole season. I was quickest at Nurburgring with the Mustang at 5PI lower thanks it's current PI. If it goes up to 635 then it would be unbeatable in the right drivers hands.

I don't mean this to be offensive in any way. A car that accelerates fast (the BMW/Ford) is going to suit someone who can't drive well because they can't take a corner and hit the required apex to maintain speed and exit as fast as a good driver. Therefore they are deemed better by that person because than can sort of get back up to the speed that they lost in the corner.

On your biggest point simon, isn't Ash the right driver?

You can be as big headed as you like Ash, I know you're fast and respect you as much as anyone else in the game. I think you've proven yourself in that area. We are all just voicing opinions.

all i have done is put a little bit of weight reduction. if you want the 5 pi taken out of the ferraris that means taking the weight out which then puts us back to square one. Not having much movability with the builds! The same goes for the lambo and all the cars i did, all i did was make them lighter and the GT500 and tvr a tad more power!

PLOW Champion wrote:i have updated the table with the porsche and nissan

Thanks Ash

Yea If PI changes go ahead can you either make builds and tunes avilable??

Can the thread names be changed so that ''MSA TORA GT CHAMPIONSHIP'' isn't in them. I can't read what thread has been posted in from the home page..