RE: Statement regarding current Driving Standards and Stewarding

CQR Aero wrote:I think the main problem last night was the lack of consideration for the cars around "you". If you have a car alongside going into a corner, the car on the inside needs to brake slightly earlier/harder to take a tight line, and the guy on the outside needs to take a wide line through the corner. OR one driver needs to decide to brake earlier and go for the undercut, but if you find yourself going through a corner side-by-side, one thing you can't do is cut the other driver off/run him off the track.
There were also some ridiculous lunges from range, often ending in contact. I'm afraid the one example that involved me received the comment "Don't worry, I was going to make the corner". Well I'm afraid the fact that you came in so fast, from so far out, and hit my car means that you would not have made the corner without using my car to help decelerate. I was particularly miffed because I had a potential race-winning car (in the lobby) but had so much damage I stood no chance. The argument of "well this is touring cars" is just not good enough. There's door-to-door racing, and then there's plain inconsiderate driving, and last night saw a lot of the latter.

CQR Aero wrote:If you have a car alongside going into a corner, the car on the inside needs to brake slightly earlier/harder to take a tight line, and the guy on the outside needs to take a wide line through the corner. OR one driver needs to decide to brake earlier and go for the undercut, but if you find yourself going through a corner side-by-side, one thing you can't do is cut the other driver off/run him off the track.

SelectiveRogue wrote:Hey all,

It has come to my attention over the past few race meetings that driving standards are causing unnecessary steward enquiries.

Respect the other racers: You may think you are the nuts and have the measure of predictable AI but when it comes to online racing you have to remember that the other cars are controlled by humans that have different styles to you. Take your time when over taking is a must. Do not risk ruining your race and another opponent by being impatient. Chances are you will get your chance at somepoint and if you don’t then you got beat by a better man on that race. Gaining good exit speed is always worth looking at. If you cannot make the move then back off a little. If your ducking up the inside and are just about to block a natural racing line then back off a little. I know you want to be committed but there comes a point where it is not wise to do so.

The same goes for cornering. Remember that it is your job to get past the opponent in front not for him to let you through. If you can’t do it cleanly and confidently then do not do it. Remember that coming into a corner the person ahead of you may have different ideas to braking etc so you need to compensate for this by perhaps braking a little earlier than you normally would. Doesn’t mean you will lose that much time, it just means you have possibly avoided an accident that wouldn’t do either of you any good. Also, remember that your tyres need time to warm up. Trying to attempt a move that you would make in the middle of the race may not work here if tyres are cold and not up to temperature.

Also, keep looking around if you have a little moment. Some of the best encounters I have seen and one I was in last night have involved all the things that have been mentioned above plus communication and the players looking at where each other was at. We were racing for nearly a lap two abreast with two rows and not one crashed because of silly moves and over eagerness. This race succeeded because the racers were telling each other where they were, looking through mirrors and also out of the side of their cars. When it happens like that it is the best experience in this game. Just remember to communicate a little of the position of your car. If you are overtaking on the right, tell them this as it will make it easier for them not to cut across the racing line into a bend and take you both out.

Many Thanks

Duncan

CQR Aero wrote:There were also some ridiculous lunges from range, often ending in contact. I'm afraid the one example that involved me received the comment "Don't worry, I was going to make the corner". Well I'm afraid the fact that you came in so fast, from so far out, and hit my car means that you would not have made the corner without using my car to help decelerate. I was particularly miffed because I had a potential race-winning car (in the lobby) but had so much damage I stood no chance. The argument of "well this is touring cars" is just not good enough. There's door-to-door racing, and then there's plain inconsiderate driving, and last night saw a lot of the latter.

rougewilson78 wrote:

CQR Aero wrote:There were also some ridiculous lunges from range, often ending in contact. I'm afraid the one example that involved me received the comment "Don't worry, I was going to make the corner". Well I'm afraid the fact that you came in so fast, from so far out, and hit my car means that you would not have made the corner without using my car to help decelerate. I was particularly miffed because I had a potential race-winning car (in the lobby) but had so much damage I stood no chance. The argument of "well this is touring cars" is just not good enough. There's door-to-door racing, and then there's plain inconsiderate driving, and last night saw a lot of the latter.

It was me that "hit" you, and I use "hit" in the loosest terms possible. I cannot see how I caused you any damage from that very, very minor tap without causing damage myself which I had none of. I did not lunge in on you, I simply had a car that was able to brake alot later than your own car which seems it was built for acceleration rather than cornering

As for "Don't worry, I was going to make the corner" comment I did not say that, I simply said "I made the corner" I did not need the help of you car whatsoever to slow down, it was your line through that particular corner that caused me to tap you. Anybody reading your post would've thought I speared you from 100ft without braking. You were not spun by me and bearly had a little squirm when I tapped you so you cant blame me for costing you the race

Yes , it couldve been avoided but it's racing and it's competitive. Would you like everyone to just rollover and let you win?

If you want to see inconsiderate driving I would suggest looking at replays of the nurburg round when I was completely speared/spun into the barriers by another driver and you will see the differance between inconsiderate driving and a racing incident

rougewilson78 wrote:at no time at all did I say "tough luck, thats racing" , I actually said in reply to another comment "well we're racing, there will be contact"

SelectiveRogue wrote:Hey all,

It has come to my attention over the past few race meetings that driving standards are causing unnecessary steward enquiries.

Respect the other racers: You may think you are the nuts and have the measure of predictable AI but when it comes to online racing you have to remember that the other cars are controlled by humans that have different styles to you. Take your time when over taking is a must. Do not risk ruining your race and another opponent by being impatient. Chances are you will get your chance at somepoint and if you don’t then you got beat by a better man on that race. Gaining good exit speed is always worth looking at. If you cannot make the move then back off a little. If your ducking up the inside and are just about to block a natural racing line then back off a little. I know you want to be committed but there comes a point where it is not wise to do so.

The same goes for cornering. Remember that it is your job to get past the opponent in front not for him to let you through. If you can’t do it cleanly and confidently then do not do it. Remember that coming into a corner the person ahead of you may have different ideas to braking etc so you need to compensate for this by perhaps braking a little earlier than you normally would. Doesn’t mean you will lose that much time, it just means you have possibly avoided an accident that wouldn’t do either of you any good. Also, remember that your tyres need time to warm up. Trying to attempt a move that you would make in the middle of the race may not work here if tyres are cold and not up to temperature.

Also, keep looking around if you have a little moment. Some of the best encounters I have seen and one I was in last night have involved all the things that have been mentioned above plus communication and the players looking at where each other was at. We were racing for nearly a lap two abreast with two rows and not one crashed because of silly moves and over eagerness. This race succeeded because the racers were telling each other where they were, looking through mirrors and also out of the side of their cars. When it happens like that it is the best experience in this game. Just remember to communicate a little of the position of your car. If you are overtaking on the right, tell them this as it will make it easier for them not to cut across the racing line into a bend and take you both out.

Many Thanks

Duncan