Endurance fever

GRT 458Italia wrote:

mopar4t4 wrote:

GRT 458Italia wrote:

mopar4t4 wrote:

mopar4t4 wrote:

mopar4t4 wrote:24hrs of Daytona.

Use old MSA TORA GT spec cars to have as the GT class.

Then for the DP class, I suggest using Moslers and Joss' up to R2 class with a power restriction and a specfic build in lure of the Daytona Prototypes we don't have in game.

As for the track, you could use Sunset Raceway (not reverse)

forgot about the Ultimas, eventhough they look the most like the DP's lol

not sure if it would work out unfortunately, I test drove some cars with the build I invisioned and there would be some GT issues unfortunately

currently woring on it now, using only Mosler and Joss work really well, and se GT2 cars but with a power and grip handicap (working on that now) and it's working really well
so far i have:
Group 1
[/u]car class R3
PI>765
PI<780 (acounts for 3rd party wheels)
Power>450 HP
Power<550 HP
curb weight> 2000 lbs
curb weight< 2500 lbs
car type: production
manditory parts: race wing and front bumper (mosler only needs front bumper)
race brakes
race tyres
race spinrgs
3rd party wheels

Group 2
class: R3
body family: GT2
power handicap:-35%
power handicap: -30%
front grip: -15%
rear grip: -15%
still working on the 3 handicaps, but going well so far
all gt cars run off specs for iscc and series and the have current handicaps
try this

methinks you need a bit more power for the DP's and more for the GT's. Mosler needs the Rear Wing, just have a separate build for each car, other wise one has certain advantages over the other.

Same, I'm hoping I can get some help with it so I have more people of different driver skill (and not just AI) so I can get it working better. And as for the camaro, rx-8 etc that was mentioned, we wepuld have to dust off the old season 8 car mods and do that, if that would work? Will work on DP soon, may need some help though

what I had for DP: 600hp, ~2100lbs, handling rating of ~7.8-8.0 with a 15% power restriction. PI was about R2 820-850.

What I had for GT: 500hp handling rating of about 6.2-6.5 with a 15% restriction.

I have experience with equalizing cars to run the same lap times (which is what my series is based on). I was having trouble getting the RX-8 to work with the other cars, and the 458 was too good, so I wouldn't reccommend it.

Hello everyone! I'm currently working on a great endurance race, the Pokka 1000km, or the 1000km of Suzuka as many of you may know it by that name. I need some help if anyone's interested in testing the GT300 cars with me. GT500 don't need any tuning, so we're good to go with that category. Here's a design I did for the race (date may change). If anyone's interested just send me a friend request. I really want to organize the event before I leave to college so, if you really want to participate, send me a FR asap. Thanks

1,000 km of Suzuka is very tempting. Shoot me a FR if you need help testing.


24 hours of Daytona is also very tempting. I have always liked TORA's production GTs as Rolex series GT cars. And for DP, using either the Mosler and Ultima, OR, the Maserati MC12, Saleen SR7, and Pagani Zonda GR in R2 class.

The cars are ready for action but I'm having trouble with the Game Setup. There are two classes which means that I'll need to have 2 buckets BUT for the GT300 class I'll need two buckets to separate cars that have a -15% Power Handicaps and the ones who don't. I can setup 3 buckets but that means that I can't score them independently because then the GT300 class would become two classes... Any help?

Well for Le mans all classes were combined, so it won't matter, like they had different classes but the standings looked like it was over all then took the distances n divided them into separate classes after

Well for Suzuka, each stint will be 43 laps, however, the scoring type will be by distance traveled so when the first person crosses the finish line then everyone needs to stop and memorize their miles covered. Is that correct?

I added three buckets in which they are scored independently, however, there are two teams who are scored individually. On the red team, there's the GT500 class. On the blue team, there are two buckets that combine the GT300 class... does that mean that they're combined to be scored the same or they're still scored independently even though they're in the same team?

No, you can divide them so that they're equal, but if they are the same team, score them together, it might not do that during the race but after score together, and if it's a 43 lap stint, don't do it on miles, do it on time finished, so say it takes 1:45 seconds to do 1 lap, probably way off a proper time, but just an example, so 1:45 minute lap, by 43 is 75 min 15 seconds or so, so you take that time n it goes on live timing, then driver 2 does a consistent 1:42, when multiplied by 43 is then 73 min 6 sec so you put them together, 148 min 21 seconds (2 hrs 8 minutes and 21 seconds) then instead of biggest distance wins, it's shortest time, because in a normal lapped race, quickest time is best
Make sense?

But that would mean that we'll have to wait until the very last driver finishes the entire 43 laps wouldn't we? In order to combine the finish times?

Here's my game setup. Everyone, let me know what to change.

RULES:

Max Players: 16
Laps: 43
Damage Difficulty: Limited
Collision Mode: Always on (Race only)

Advanced Rules:

Scoring Type: Time Based
Bigger is better: No
Compare best lap scores: No
End Condition: Numlaps
Grid Ordering: Lobby Points
Ascending: Yes
# of player buckets: 3
Score buckets independently: Yes
Grouped by bucket: Yes
Tag Enabled: No
# of Heats: 4
# of Teams: 2
Team Scoring Type: Individual
Interleave Teams: No
End of race timer: None

LMR DJFiisSHYPR wrote:But that would mean that we'll have to wait until the very last driver finishes the entire 43 laps wouldn't we? In order to combine the finish times?

What do u mean?

Are you saying that I should take the fastest lap time and multiply it by 43? Or the finish time and add it during every stint?

LMR DJFiisSHYPR wrote:Here's my game setup. Everyone, let me know what to change.

RULES:

Max Players: 16
Laps: 43
Damage Difficulty: Limited
Collision Mode: Always on (Race only)

Advanced Rules:

Scoring Type: Time Based
Bigger is better: No
Compare best lap scores: No
End Condition: Numlaps
Grid Ordering: Lobby Points
Ascending: Yes
# of player buckets: 3
Score buckets independently: Yes
Grouped by bucket: Yes
Tag Enabled: No
# of Heats: 4
# of Teams: 2
Team Scoring Type: Individual
Interleave Teams: No
End of race timer: None

Some things you could change: number of heats 0, that's what the lobbies are for when changing driver, make it 45 laps, 1 for warm up lap and cool down for everyones times to be collected, and for the grid ordering, keep it as lobby points, but don't have it as ascending, if it's ascending it will put it in reverse order

LMR DJFiisSHYPR wrote:Are you saying that I should take the fastest lap time and multiply it by 43? Or the finish time and add it during every stint?

Yea the finish time, I was just using that time as an example, you know how when you finish a race offline and online, you go race results and it shows you your position, your fastest lap time and then total time? You take the total time from each driver and add them to live timing, and then you do that for stint 2, 3 and 4 and then you have all 4 times for all teams and like usual, the quickest time wins

Ok so when the first place driver crosses the finish line at lap 44, heading for lap 45 (the coold down lap), each driver must stop immediately and memorize their finish times no matter on what lap they are in? Or do we have to what for every driver to finish the 45 laps?

Wait for all drivers to complete lap 43, lobby host or camera car if there is 1, will write down the time they crossed the start line when finishing their warm up lap and the race starts, so say it takes them 78 minutes to do the race, however, they do a warm up lap at the start, so that adds 2-3 minutes onto the total time, so someone who isn't racing will write down what the time says when they cross the finish line after their warm up lap, which is then deducted from their time at the ends so say I do the race in 76 and 1/2 minutes, it takes the lobby 2 and 1/4 minutes to do the warm up lap, so at the end, my total race time is 74 minutes 15 seconds, the time for the first lap won't count as its a warm up lap, nor will the last one as its only used to collect times, we would make it a rule that we would tell the lobby host your time at the end of the 24th lap (so including warm up lap) and then after the times are collected, whoever took down the time the race started (so the time it took to do the warm up lap) and take that away from the total lap time. Does that make sense? Or am I confusing you

Makes sense but two problems... it'll take a lot of time till every driver finishes and our second problem is... who will be willing to do work with the times? lol

i'm not sure, it'd only take a few minutes for all the drvers to finish, and idk, well some of the guys had to wait and get all the distances for le mans, which didn't take long and same with the 24 laps of Nurburgring last december, 24 laps and they had to take down times at the end so, it might be a bit easy than it sounds, but we'll wait and see, maybe one weekend we could run a small test session to see how smoothly it would run

Well, if anyone is interested in helping me organize the event then just shoot me a FR

Can you send me 1, I'm not gonna b on for a bit, got school stuff to do, and I'd be very happy to help organize

Okay all done. The race is ready to go! I just need some people who would like to help with the organization of the event...

Try talking to Simon, Chris or Louis about it

Daytona using the R390 is a great idea, I've always wanted to organise one but never settled on which DP car to use.

Alright well, I sent CMGraphix a message on xbox live if he was interested in organizing the event with other TORA members and he deleted me of his friends list. So what I'll do is that I'll recruit other people and the FELeague will organize the event... Anyone who would like to join the FELeague and be part of it just shoot me a message!

I wouldn't take it personally
Have a word in Aero's direction. Or even Ian or Louis.

Regarding other Endurance races outside of our already planned ones I don't think we will be able to help. We put so much time and effort into both Le Mans and Sebring and with such huge fields and the large workload we already have with running TORA, the 3 series here and taking the time to do all the media stuff you guys love seeing I cannot see us being able to fit in running another Endurance race with Silverstone coming soon and quite a few things we have planned for the rest of the year. (that we can't speak about yet)

We are only human and whilst creating the content you see here at TORA being our hobby and passion we need to have our own time to do the other things we want to do, and to spend time with our families as well. We don't get paid for this, so please bare that in mind when asking for so many different series and to ask us to commit so much time and effort outside of what we already have planned.

We are taking these suggestions seriously though, so expect to see the TEC expand from four rounds next year. For now, can we just please focus on the GT, ISCC and TCC series and our upcoming Britcar 12hrs.