Re: TORA TCC - General Discussion

by NoGoldie Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 13:08

In my opinion the third drivers points should score ...

I mean it in that there is not a cats chance in hell that I will win any championship, but I do like to think I am contributing to the team as a whole .. else there is just no point having a third driver, of course this is still my opinion.

I could have dropped out after qualifying and watched some TV or opened the bottle of vodka knowing that my team mates had already done the hard part

Respect, Goldie...

by **CQR Aero** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 13:17

NoGoldie wrote:In my opinion the third drivers points should score ...

I mean it in that there is not a cats chance in hell that I will win any championship, but I do like to think I am contributing to the team as a whole .. else there is just no point having a third driver, of course this is still my opinion.

I could have dropped out after qualifying and watched some TV or opened the bottle of vodka knowing that my team mates had already done the hard part

Respect, Goldie...

I'd never thought about it that way, so thanks, and I totally understand. One of the reasons in the past at least, was so that 3-driver teams and 2-driver teams could compete. If all drivers in the team are now scoring, then the 3-driver teams obviously have a big advantage.

by NoGoldie Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 13:46

Not necessarily Chris ...

a 2 man team could have 2 very fast drivers whilst a 3 man team might have 3 average drivers which would balance it out somewhat (team wise) .. mind you, there are 3 man teams in this championship that have 3 fast drivers which again give them the advantage, very much like in real life racing teams ...

I'm not trying to stir any trouble, just thinking outside the box, so to speak

Goldie...

by **CQR Aero** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 13:53

Don't worry, not taking it as stirring, I appreciate the alternate point of view. As I said, I hadn't really considered the "no need to race then" POV.

by BG Scarlett Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 15:09

Chris wrote:
NoGoldie wrote:In my opinion the third drivers points should score ...

I mean it in that there is not a cats chance in hell that I will win any championship, but I do like to think I am contributing to the team as a whole .. else there is just no point having a third driver, of course this is still my opinion.

I could have dropped out after qualifying and watched some TV or opened the bottle of vodka knowing that my team mates had already done the hard part

Respect, Goldie...

I'd never thought about it that way, so thanks, and I totally understand. One of the reasons in the past at least, was so that 3-driver teams and 2-driver teams could compete. If all drivers in the team are now scoring, then the 3-driver teams obviously have a big advantage.

I know my points are never going to count towards the team score as I am awful compared to my fellow compadres. But the thought of clean racing with people of the same standard as me (which the qualifying sorts out) is excellent and I thoroughly enjoy myself. I can’t wait till Infineon. Cool

Maybe one day my points will count. LOL

by Standaman94 Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 16:46

NoGoldie wrote:a 2 man team could have 2 very fast drivers whilst a 3 man team might have 3 average drivers which would balance it out somewhat (team wise) .. mind you, there are 3 man teams in this championship that have 3 fast drivers which again give them the advantage, very much like in real life racing teams ...

IMO, if a team is faster than the rest, they deserve to win. That's the goal as a team, anyway... To be the fastest.

by Guest Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 17:40

Following Round 2 Race 2 Lobby B of the TORA TCC Championship the following incident/s are under investigation by the stewards;

1) Car #268 ,#98 & #133 contact turn 1
2)
3)

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by CQR HABURi Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 18:21

What's the process to have the stewards look at an incident?

by Hainesy Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 18:22

Quote from the rules:

"TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP

A team will be made up of a minimum of 1, and maximum of 3 drivers, all driving the same car in the same class. This championship will be scored by the total points score for all team drivers over the course of the championship"

Its the reason we entered 3 man teams rather than 4 teams of 2 so that every racer contributes and has a feeling, no matter how low down he is, that his position matters.

by Duke of Bruno Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 18:32

CQR HABURi wrote:What's the process to have the stewards look at an incident?

http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t7177-2012-community-steward-team#121073

by **JAMIE ANDERS0N** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 18:43

Seems the team points will need updating. Please bear with us guys

by **JAMIE ANDERS0N** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 20:13

CQR Magictap wrote:Following Race 3 of the TORA TCC Championship the following incident/s are under investigation by the stewards;

1) Car #105 & #131 coming together Lobby A 2nd lap through chicane
2)
3)

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Following Race 4 of the TORA TCC Championship the following incident/s are under investigation by the stewards;

1) Car #105 & #104 Lobby A last corner of the last lap coming together
2)
3)

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Following Race 4 of the TORA TCC Championship the following incident/s are under investigation by the stewards;

1) Car #30 Lobby C corner cutting
2)
3)

Car #30 didnt race last night?? Could the names also be put with the numbers when these's are announced?

by **Richy59** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 20:16

Regarding the points I hope to have some clarification tonight or tomorrow.

Historically, all of our series run with 2 out of the 3 drivers scoring the team's points.

by Guest Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 20:17

my bad, that should be #84. I read the position instead of the number. Will edit to correct.

by **JAMIE ANDERS0N** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 20:23

Thanks for clearing this up Matt

by **JAMIE ANDERS0N** Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 20:32

CQR Magictap wrote:my bad, that should be #84. I read the position instead of the number. Will edit to correct.

Can I just check on the warning, is it the next 3 meetings in TORA or the next 3 meetings in TCC?

by Guest Wed 21 Mar 2012 - 20:36

next 3 meetings raced at. So if it was GT's, the next 3 meetings would consist of 6 races. If it was the ISCC, the next 3 meetings are 3 races. Can be any meetings a driver attends in succession. (I imagine turning up and quitting early wouldn't count as an FYI)

by BG Scarlett Thu 22 Mar 2012 - 17:19

We at British Gamers are so thrilled to be part of TORA that we are thinking of sponsoring the TORA TCC if you do not already have one.

Can someone please pm if you're interested. Very Happy

Thanks,

Trev

by Mandown46 Thu 22 Mar 2012 - 21:45

NoGoldie wrote:In my opinion the third drivers points should score ...

I mean it in that there is not a cats chance in hell that I will win any championship, but I do like to think I am contributing to the team as a whole .. else there is just no point having a third driver, of course this is still my opinion.

I could have dropped out after qualifying and watched some TV or opened the bottle of vodka knowing that my team mates had already done the hard part

Respect, Goldie...

The way I see this is that the third driver of a team can take points away from other teams, so to speak. If one team's drivers finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd, sure, only the top two drivers count for the Team, but the third driver has made sure that the next best team can only score 4th place points.....

It all adds up in the long run

by AMR of the Apex Thu 22 Mar 2012 - 22:14

If its about having the best three drivers then surely, it should be in my opinion, the best finishing position and worst finishing position per team per race should count, IE:

Team finishes 1st, 2nd and 6th

Points for 1st and 6th, but not for 2nd.

by Beanz Fri 23 Mar 2012 - 7:55

Mandown wrote:
The way I see this is that the third driver of a team can take points away from other teams, so to speak. If one team's drivers finished 1st, 2nd and 3rd, sure, only the top two drivers count for the Team, but the third driver has made sure that the next best team can only score 4th place points.....

It all adds up in the long run

But if a team locked out the podium, and only 1st and 2nd earned their points for the team, the guy from the other team who finished 4th would still only get the points for 4th, he wouldn't then get team points for 3rd because he didn't finish there...

In my opinion though, it was in the rules from the get go, it's what most people have been working towards, all three teams members should score points.

TCC Rules wrote:A team will be made up of a minimum of 1, and maximum of 3 drivers, all driving the same car in the same class. This championship will be scored by the total points score for all team drivers over the course of the championship.

Beanz

by CQR HABURi Fri 23 Mar 2012 - 12:24

I was just looking at the TORA week in review and noticed that the wrong person was cited as the driver of the Suzuki at Tsukuba. Razz

by **CQR Aero** Fri 23 Mar 2012 - 12:51

CQR HABURi wrote:I was just looking at the TORA week in review and noticed that the wrong person was cited as the driver of the Suzuki at Tsukuba.

Who what where?!? Let me know what needs amending and I'll do it.

by CQR HABURi Fri 23 Mar 2012 - 13:07

It shows BG Wumba as the driver of the Suzuki, that driver was in fact FLT Newmanx of NTR.

"The race one podium was rounded off with the Suzuki of BG Wumba of the new British Gamers Race Team and TORA stalwart lfcnicklfc in his venerable SEAT Leon."

by **CQR Aero** Fri 23 Mar 2012 - 13:17

Ah yes, well spotted thanks. Should be corrected now.

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