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Post by Koenigsegg R Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 16:00

So are these builds final?

Or will they change (as usual) when someone post a super quick lap time?
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Post by HCR Motorhead Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 16:41

F4H Koenigsegg wrote:So are these builds final?

Or will they change (as usual) when someone post a super quick lap time?

A quick guy runs a quick time in one car, then all the guys run that car.
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Post by F4H Lotterer Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 16:43

fast drivers will be fast in whatever , when you see guys like alex and bullin post times like that in R1/X class its really no surprise.
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Post by Koenigsegg R Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 16:49

HMR Motorhead wrote:
F4H Koenigsegg wrote:So are these builds final?

Or will they change (as usual) when someone post a super quick lap time?

A quick guy runs a quick time in one car, then all the guys run that car.
I'm asking because with all Endurance races in 2012 builds kept changing all the time untill qualifying.
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Post by F4H Lotterer Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 16:52

no this should be good to go , unless someone has a real valid reason to nurf a car .
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Post by Matt Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 17:08

Pleased to say that there will be an Aston Martin Racing presence on the grid at Sebring.
Smile
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Post by ShrinkingSteven Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 17:49

Matt wrote:Pleased to say that there will be an Aston Martin Racing presence on the grid at Sebring.
Smile

In Gulf colours?

or go for sometihng like the AMR colours from this years D24? lol!
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Post by Matt Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 17:51

I don't think it'll be Craft no Wink
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Post by SCR3WUGUYZ Sun 10 Feb 2013 - 20:12

Ready for some serious endurance racing again!
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Post by XPR Roadrunner Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 15:44

I know these cars are supposed to be similar to the upcoming ISCC builds (or at least I'm lead to believe that) but with the current builds the Viper is at least 1 full second slower than any other car on the list at Sebring and a whopping 2-3s slower at Le Mans than the majority of the list again.

equal?....

EDIT: I say this because I want to bring SRT over again to TORA, and I don't want to go thru that business (they are looking into Social media options for the race, atm) just to have us sit there in C lobby, get no attention and finish near the bottom (assuming no crashes and lagouts).

it isn't a done deal yet, but this is making me reconsider doing this, as is all of XPR
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Post by CQR Rogue Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 16:03

yep builds wont change, I understand but from testing group and team no issue was found with the viper
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Post by MT2 Levin Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 16:07

he's not the only one a second off with the Viper then. I'm a second off as well compared to the rest of the cars.


also, the others at MGR who have tested it are also a second or more behind with the Viper.
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Post by XPR Roadrunner Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 17:03

no offense Duncan but this is true to XPR as well. I'm finding it hard to believe that it is equal.

I suppose my suspecions will be true/false when regeistration comes up
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Post by MT2 Levin Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 17:20

the problem is the only thing that can be done to the Vipers at this point is to up the tires on the front and rear. Otherwise the rest of the cars would have to get changed. :/
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Post by CQR Rogue Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 17:26

I have asked test team if the viper was overlooked but like Lightning has said tyres that's all speed wise cant do much about that, wish we could mod this game
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Post by Ax4x Kane Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 17:31

XPR Roadrunner wrote:the Viper is at least 1 full second slower than any other car on the list at Sebring and a whopping 2-3s slower at Le Mans than the majority of the list again.

equal?....

Here we go...
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Post by XPR Roadrunner Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 17:36

well, you could just put race brakes, give it one restitctor and give it ~10-15% handi to give it an extra 20-30hp or something. Stock tire width.

I'm not saying that it's unequal AS A WHOLE, but for these two tracks it is.
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Post by MT2 Levin Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 17:38

SelectiveRogue wrote:I have asked test team if the viper was overlooked but like Lightning has said tyres that's all speed wise cant do much about that, wish we could mod this game

regardless if y'all add the tires to it or not, I still plan on running it for Sebring. From my guess, the tires will probably help a bit. I can't do anything about the straight-line speed, but the gain in the corners might equalize it out. I can test it and report back if you want, I've got 18 hours before I have to go to work.
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Post by MT2 Levin Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 20:11

F4H Koenigsegg wrote:2:04.562 - SRT Viper

Completely stock tune, including stock downforce. I only did 4 flying laps. Because of the low speed, you have to keep momentum up through the corners. Which makes it harder to do fast laptimes than in, let's say, the Ferrari. Viper might be slower, but not by much, 4 tenths maximum.

There's work to be done!
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Post by Ax4x Bandit Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 20:33

Something tells me the Viper doesn't need a power handicap since it only has 475 horsepower. How much faster is the Viper without the handicap compared to the rest of the field?
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Post by F4H Bullet Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 20:43

If you look at the car builds section, you will find out that there is actually no handicap on the Viper.

Don't want to sound like a douche, but its probaly not the car. CQR and myself have gotten the Lambo into the top lobbies over in the GT championship and the Lambo like the Viper has no speed whatsover. You need to make up the time in other places where the cars strenghts are and utilize it to the max. My suggestion, don't use any downforce on the Viper as it really won't need it due to the aero and mechanical grip it has over other cars.
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Post by LMR Deftone MX Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 20:57

Scantraxx: 2:03.5 Ford GT
Myself: 2:03.8 GT3 RSR and 1:46.7 in the R18
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Post by XPR Roadrunner Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 21:09

4mph over the SLS at Sunset. I accidentally did a few laps without restriction when I was testing with Red Dirt Bandit
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Post by MT2 Levin Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 21:09

F4H Bullet wrote:If you look at the car builds section, you will find out that there is actually no handicap on the Viper.

Don't want to sound like a douche, but its probaly not the car. CQR and myself have gotten the Lambo into the top lobbies over in the GT championship and the Lambo like the Viper has no speed whatsover. You need to make up the time in other places where the cars strenghts are and utilize it to the max. My suggestion, don't use any downforce on the Viper as it really won't need it due to the aero and mechanical grip it has over other cars.

I already don't as it is. It's going to be cornering speed that makes the difference it seems for the Viper. It's just going to need some work is all, and a better driver than I to bring out the best of it.
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Post by XPR Roadrunner Mon 11 Feb 2013 - 21:10

F4H Bullet wrote:If you look at the car builds section, you will find out that there is actually no handicap on the Viper.

Don't want to sound like a douche, but its probaly not the car. CQR and myself have gotten the Lambo into the top lobbies over in the GT championship and the Lambo like the Viper has no speed whatsover. You need to make up the time in other places where the cars strenghts are and utilize it to the max. My suggestion, don't use any downforce on the Viper as it really won't need it due to the aero and mechanical grip it has over other cars.

We have, it feels much different than the Lambo tho.
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