Re: ISCC Phase 2 Testing

by **CQR Rogue** Sat 25 May 2013 - 9:39

not to sure chaddy

by Standaman94 Sat 25 May 2013 - 10:58

It would probably be easier to run the usual TORA numbers. Although I suppose it could work with each class having their own 1-2-3

by F4H bandicoot Sat 25 May 2013 - 11:02

CQR Franchitti wrote:I was wondering how the numbers will be worked? Example - Bli33ard won the last LMPC class so would he have a number 1?

Why would LMPC get #1, surely the top class should??

If you were going this route P1 winner should get#1, P2 winner #2, etc. And that's only if they remain in that class.

by F4H Lotterer Sat 25 May 2013 - 11:43

Yes P1 drivers should get the #1 #2 and #3 if they return to defend.

by **CQR Rogue** Sat 25 May 2013 - 11:57

yep agree most likely numbers be used

by Ax4x Chaddy Sat 25 May 2013 - 12:56

why not have a 1 for LMP1, 1 for LMPC and 1 for GT?

by **CQR Rogue** Sat 25 May 2013 - 19:15

I think that would get confusing much easier if numbers kept same

by RumbleBee 392 Mon 27 May 2013 - 16:55

just run #1 for lmp1 champion, #2 for recent PC champion since we wont have lmp2 and #3 for GTE Champion...

LMP1 shouldn't get all the glory lol

by **Radiation Louis** Tue 28 May 2013 - 21:46

XPR Soundwave wrote:just run #1 for lmp1 champion, #2 for recent PC champion since we wont have lmp2 and #3 for GTE Champion...

LMP1 shouldn't get all the glory lol

this is what we have done in the past and will continue to do

by RumbleBee 392 Wed 29 May 2013 - 5:10

XPR Gillard wrote:
XPR Soundwave wrote:just run #1 for lmp1 champion, #2 for recent PC champion since we wont have lmp2 and #3 for GTE Champion...

LMP1 shouldn't get all the glory lol

this is what we have done in the past and will continue to do

oh.... uh, +1 lol

by **Koenigsegg R** Thu 30 May 2013 - 19:20

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with the choice of the TEC Le Mans car list being the same as the ISCC. ISCC is a whole season over different tracks, cars are balanced for a whole series. Le Mans is only one race. One 24H race. Cars needs to be balanced for 1 track, not multiple. At the moment the cars are not balanced for Le Mans. In GTE for example, Corvette is the quickest by at least a second over a whole lap. Viper and Gallardo lack a lot of top speed and acceleration and are the slowest by a few seconds.

by **LMR DarthMario** Thu 30 May 2013 - 23:09

well, i tried the new Vette build earlier today, and lost about a full second or a little more with the lower tire widths. i'll struggle to find the 3:59's now, personally, where with the Sebring spec, i was hitting a 3:59.0xx. this is with the same tune mind you, with just narrower tires.

by **Koenigsegg R** Fri 31 May 2013 - 7:30

Here the qualifying times of VM ALMS Series 1 at Le Mans with similar builds. Corvette build is actually the same, except for the rims. RoadRunner said he could go quicker. He had damage in the race.
http://www.virtual-motorsports.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=253&t=3872

But the thing is. TORA staff said that the builds between Sebring and Le Mans will be the same. With possible changes to the Corvette and Aston Martin DBR9. Now almost all cars have been changed, which makes testing (and tunes) already done by the teams and drivers a bit pointless.

by **Richy59** Fri 31 May 2013 - 7:41

The Abruzzi and Porsche are the only cars that were lower, by one tyre width on the front or back depending on the car. The rest of the list is the same, except the Ferrari getting a bit more PI, the Jag getting a bit more PI, the Vette getting a lot less PI and the Viper getting its restictor taken off but then handicapped. When we tested the Viper at Le Mans with the first restrictor removed we tried it at 10% power and it was as fast as the Vette on the straights, but had much better grip so was much faster overall.

I have put the Abruzzi and Porsche back up to their Sebring PI already, and the LMP1 list is the same expect for the Aston Martin getting a little bit more.

From that set of times all I can see is one Driver from the whole field going fast in the Vette, and the next is Ford and Abruzzi. All the rest of the cars are pretty mixed up and setting similar times.

I'm happy with the cars and I think it will make for a great race. Everybody bitched about the Vette dominating Sebring and it was no where near the pace as everyone else. I think people give that car way too much credit.

by **Koenigsegg R** Fri 31 May 2013 - 9:25

With the times I just provided you can see that RoadRunner is much quicker. He's one the fastest guys on FM4. So is Amarth and myself also in GT cars. Amarth and myself are more than a second slower. With all respect, but Nick James, RANCIDBLAZE and SHINOBI COLEY are not one of the fastest guys on FM4 or in GT's. We should be balancing cars, not drivers.

by **Ax4x Cowboy** Fri 31 May 2013 - 11:06

How do you handicap the Corvette though?
You could remove grip but it's the bit between the corners where the Corvette is quick and I think a 5% handicap would hurt the car a lot.

1.5 seconds on a 4 minute lap isn't as bad as it might seem - I make it about 0.63% and that's without having the same driver in both cars to remove that variable.

I don't know how much testing and talking went on 'behind the scenes' before the Le Mans list was released but if it's anything like the ISCC threads then I trust what has been released for Le Mans.

by BG Wumba Fri 31 May 2013 - 15:54

Richy59 wrote:
I'm happy with the cars and I think it will make for a great race. Everybody bitched about the Vette dominating Sebring and it was no where near the pace as everyone else. I think people give that car way too much credit.

+1

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