ISCC Phase 1 Testing

F4H Koenigsegg wrote:

Richy59 wrote:I think he means the updated ones need a bit of adjusting. I think the Z4 mainly. What kind of adjustments do you think they need Thom?

Z4 needs 1 extra tire width upgrade at the front and rear. Jaguar 1 tire width upgrade at the front.

Anything on the Ferrari?

I think after Polaris' showing your Porsche is spot on. The Viper needs a new motor that isn't on the game. Ever take a restrictor off and use the same handicap as the others? Just spitballing ideas, wheel is on it's way back.

We started looking at ways of increasing the speed of the Viper for Le Mans, and one way to make it do the same speed as the Corvette was to take the first restrictor off so it was R3800 or whatever, and then add a 15% handicap. Could be worth looking into?

TG Wormburner wrote:

F4H Koenigsegg wrote:

Richy59 wrote:I think he means the updated ones need a bit of adjusting. I think the Z4 mainly. What kind of adjustments do you think they need Thom?

Z4 needs 1 extra tire width upgrade at the front and rear. Jaguar 1 tire width upgrade at the front.

Anything on the Ferrari?

I'm not sure, I don't think it's necessary. You can try.

Richy59 wrote:We started looking at ways of increasing the speed of the Viper for Le Mans, and one way to make it do the same speed as the Corvette was to take the first restrictor off so it was R3800 or whatever, and then add a 15% handicap. Could be worth looking into?

Yeah, I was also thinking about that. Didn't test it yet.
I don't think we should try to replicate the speed of the Corvette.
Not sure about the tire widths. Viper is one the best handling cars and it has the most downforce.

Cheers dude,

I will update the OP 2night need jump on the box been busy this week

I agree Thom, and that was only a Le Mans test. The Viper was as quick as the Vette down the mulsanne but was a lot more grippy in the corners. Would need further tests to see how it could balance.

Richy from a racers standpoint I do not want anything to do with a car with a handicap. I can't use Test Drive to tune it and get it close. That kills those cars for me and I know a lot of people say the same thing. The whole start race, save replay, watch replay, adjust car, then repeat is annoying.

The game just kills that for you. The Vette is just a faster car so let it be faster in the straights and try to kill it in the Porsche curves at Le Mans.

I'm running the Vette in the ALMS and yes, it's fast without aero but with cars around you it may hurt your lap times but the car is really unstable in traffic. I was running about 70 to 80 percent aero at Road Atlanta in it and if I was behind another car it would understeer straight off the track. Nothing I could do about it. We were testing pre-season and Takumi picked up on it when he was flying by in the LMP car. The thing just went apeshit when something was around it. Same for the M3 as well.

I know ONR Roadrunner is in it and qualifies really high but he's not running much aero and has horrid races. Just something to keep in mind.

TG Wormburner wrote:

The Vette is just a faster car so let it be faster in the straights and try to kill it in the Porsche curves at Le Mans.

This +1

TG Wormburner wrote:Richy from a racers standpoint I do not want anything to do with a car with a handicap. I can't use Test Drive to tune it and get it close. That kills those cars for me and I know a lot of people say the same thing. The whole start race, save replay, watch replay, adjust car, then repeat is annoying.

Agreed, this is why I'm hesitant to go down that route and even adding in a Z4 with a power handicap - including the Aston. Also why I'm thinking that GTE should be used at Silverstone and Nurburgring instead of the TORA GT cars with handicaps.

^^^ Yep

GTE is the shitty road cars on drag tires? I'm lost as always.

I wouldn't want them in unless it's like GT and you do only those two if that is the case. I hate to keep on about it but I just feel that further diluting your championship is a really, really bad idea.

If you're running two ISCC's this year why not one with LMP and one with GTE (if that's what it is). If you did do 3 championships you could just do LMP2, GT, and road GT's and eliminate that freaking Audi. If you needed to balance those cars from a P2 base to fit a few in that is more wise than taking two LMP classes since the field one is thin as is.

GTE is the GT cars we are talking about that Thom sorted out. GTE is the class designation for GT2 cars in ALMS/WEC, nothing to do with Road Cars.

And there will be no drag tyres

SelectiveRogue wrote:And there will be no drag tyres

CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Richy59 wrote:GTE is the GT cars we are talking about that Thom sorted out. GTE is the class designation for GT2 cars in ALMS/WEC, nothing to do with Road Cars.

Too many names and changes and I get them confused with this new crap next year.

Thank god there are no drag tires.

I finished testing LMP1, LMP2 and cars from NEW GTE list and posted all times. All tested with stock tune and with TCS on.

LMP1: good car list. I would have said that the AMR-One has a little advantage, but Drake was even faster in the Acura. My best lap in the Lola Aston was a lucky one, but for some reason I struggled in the Lola Mazda.

LMP2: it seems that the Acura and the Chevy have some advantage compared to the others.

GTE NEW: I like this car list. Close times. The Ford and Panoz seem to have a slight advantage, but that may change if tunings comes into play.

op updated

Thom are PI now correct on GTE?

SelectiveRogue wrote:op updated

Thom are PI now correct on GTE?

As long as all available Race Driveline, Race Brakes (not breaks) and other stuff are upgraded and the correct tire widths, then the PI should be okay. I still have them with upgraded rims on it, because of the VM GT list.

yep lol tyres now can you check z4 widths are correct?

Z4 tire widths are 315/340, not 310/340.

cheers dude Richy think GTE good to go just need LMP1 looked at

SelectiveRogue wrote:cheers dude Richy think GTE good to go just need LMP1 looked at

Given the current format for inputting times, I have already completed the allotted laps for all the LMP1s. Am I to assume that 'Phase 2' testing can start now? If such, I'll jump right on those LMP1s.

do what you think will work Drake.

I'll get Phase 2 set up for this weekend and we can start proper testing.

sweet

Just a note, it was pointed out to me last night that the website says the iscc will start in April (in the iscc section) whoever can get on there would be best to remove that