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Post by Richy59 Tue 19 Mar 2013 - 20:26

If we drop P2, is there any chance of getting the Porsche RS Spyder into LMP1 in a fair way?

We could go spec with LMPC again?
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Post by LMR DarthMario Tue 19 Mar 2013 - 20:32

i personally would like to see P2 stay. i want to test the waters in prototypes. sure i did it in LMPC in the ISCC-Asia "Test Season" when FM4 launched, but i want to try it again in a longer season. (clean race at Tsukuba, lapped other PC's drivers in my lobby at Suzuka, got outclassed at Motegi. lol)
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Post by TG Wormburner Tue 19 Mar 2013 - 20:52

Do you really want a Bora screaming around at 200mph?

I understand in GT2, they are similar but in LMPC they are no where close.
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Post by Radiation Louis Tue 19 Mar 2013 - 22:07

Hey guys sorry it took so long for me to get over here been busy with a lot of things as I'm sure a lot of you already know about. I personally would like to keep it at 3 classes instead of 2-3 cars per class in each lobby I'm looking at 5 per class with the posibility of a 6th here and there. 5 is a good number of people to race with and still have traffic to manage (just my thoughts and we all know what happens when i think lol! ) If we can get other cars like the McLaren and Merc to fit i would gladly welcome them. the Z4, while i want it there due to RLL racing it in ALMS this season the M3 has proven to be a balanced car that we dont have to do to much to it.
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Post by Koenigsegg R Tue 19 Mar 2013 - 22:29

You guys should try the Z4 with removed restrictors, all available upgrades, front tire width at 315 and rear at 340 and use 15% Power Handicap. Compare your times in the Z4 with other GT cars, then let me know what you think.
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Post by LMR DarthMario Tue 19 Mar 2013 - 23:23

i'm sure it could work, but remember, we only have the ability to create 4 Car Groups in the lobby settings. And at this point, he'd be using them all for LMP1, LMP2, GTE & the DBR9's special caps to fit it into the series.












....oh why did T10 have to abandon FM4 for Horizon. Could've seriously needed the Z4 GTE or Vantage GTE or (etc, etc) Crying or Very sad
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Post by TG Wormburner Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 0:50

We could have more GT and LMP cars instead of LMP2 Twisted Evil



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Post by Radiation Louis Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 2:21

personally i was looking into p2 just to do something different.
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Post by RumbleBee 392 Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 4:07

the 4 classes worked last year until the end of the season when guys stopped racing. then 4 classes didn't work, but i see 3 working just fine this year.

Car-capping and series max drivers may be a need to even out the classes. as for cars, i still think only the z4 should allowed if any. remeber, all the groups are already being used and dont have room for a 5th
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Post by Standaman94 Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 7:46

IRT DarthMario wrote:i'm sure it could work, but remember, we only have the ability to create 4 Car Groups in the lobby settings. And at this point, he'd be using them all for LMP1, LMP2, GTE & the DBR9's special caps to fit it into the series.
Why not drop the Aston, the only reason we're still clutching at it is because it's a bit like a Vantage Razz No one drives the DBR9 IRL anymore. Then again, there's a lot of defunct cars we still use, like the Ford, M3, Panoz and Jag Surprised

Anyway, this has popped up over here:
http://forums.theonlineracingassociation.com/t9749-2013-tora-iscc-questions#202583

Maybe we should open it to the community to see what they'd like. They're the ones racing in the series so they might as well get a word in.
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Post by Koenigsegg R Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 8:26

About car groups. Every non handicapped car can be in the same group. So GT's and LMP's are in the same group without any handicap. But they GT's and LMP's will use different teams colours.

You can always work around the max 4 Car Groups. Wink
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Post by CQR Rogue Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 8:39

My Vote if we had 42 player lobbies 3 classes as we dont

P1 & GTE

Could look to add more P2 cars in P1
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Post by F4H Lotterer Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 9:07

You can't drop the aston due to the real world ties with the team.
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Post by Standaman94 Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 10:44

^ oh yeah course. Better keep it then Wink
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Post by CQR Rogue Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 10:47

But still 2 classes get my vote, any way, can we start getting times in for P1 & GTE

The GT3 cars

Z4
SLS
&
MP4-12C

Need confirm builds

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Post by TG Wormburner Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 14:14

I would let Thom come up with the initial build. His GT cars at VM are as close as I've ever seen someone get GT cars. He knows the characteristics and times of the ones he's tested and it's best not to skew the testing. Let him get the base done.

He posted a link to it earlier if anyone is curious. I assure you it's really good.
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Post by Koenigsegg R Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 14:52

Go Worm! Go Worm! Go Worm! Razz

BMW Z4 GT3 build:
- Remove Restrictors
- Race Brakes
- Front Tire Width 315
- Rear Tire Width 340
- 15% Power Handicap

Didn't make the builds yet for the McLaren and SLS. They'll follow shortly.
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Post by Richy59 Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 15:08

Can we please start working on some times? There are car builds and such on the first post, if we can get times from them and then start adding or subtracting PIs and adjusting builds then it will work a lot better than guessing at which cars and builds work.

Out GT builds are not exactly vastly different from the ones that Thom posted earlier as they were in part created with the help of F4H.
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Post by TG Wormburner Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 15:49

I don't see any reason to go away from any of what he's done on the GT. No idea on the LMP cars but I'm sure Motorhead can help out quite a bit with that.

No testing for me, they finally accepted my repair at Fanatec and I mailed my wheel off today. They moved the repair center to FL so it should be a few days quicker each way now.
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Post by Koenigsegg R Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 17:48

SLS doesn't work. Too quick on the straights, too slow in the corners.

McLaren MP4-12C GT3 build:
- Remove Restrictors
- Race Brakes
- Front Tire Width 320 (or try 330)
- Rear Tire Width 340 (or try 350)
- 15% Power Handicap

I'm not sure yet about 320/340 or 330/350. If we do 330/350, then my advice would be to use slightly heavier rims than the stock rims.
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Post by CQR Rogue Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 20:39

op updated with test form Smile
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Post by TG Wormburner Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 20:50

I would also test the Ferrari with one more tire width.
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Post by CQR Rogue Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 20:55

Worm whats the Front Tire Width ? And Rear Tire Width ? and PI of Ferrari you want to test will add
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Post by TG Wormburner Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 21:36

I think one rear or one front on Thom's list. It is a tiny bit slower than the rest for both myself and Takumi in testing. I would test both, the rear width could make it understeer too much
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Post by Koenigsegg R Wed 20 Mar 2013 - 22:14

I'm not so sure about the Ferrari. It was 5th fastest in my testing, out of 12.

Some changes to my VM builds (I still need to test the changes).
- Jaguar 320 width at the front.
- Esperante at 325 at the rear.

And I forgot to mention that you should only remove the 1st restrictor on the McLaren.
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